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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:13 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:13 pm to WeeWee
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You do realize that in almost every phase of this conflict, Iran has rushed out to claim something only to be proven wrong a few hours later, don’t you?
Same could be said of anything out of the US side of this one.
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:17 pm to bigjoe1
Thats a terrible deal if true. Trump basically chickened out, galvanized the lunatics and then made them stronger.
Could have done something truly amazing, but he shite the bed.
Could have done something truly amazing, but he shite the bed.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:18 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:18 pm to Bronco11
Finally something from Iran, hope this holds. Lets get the handcuffs off this economy
Iran says end of war to be announced starting tonight
Iran says end of war to be announced starting tonight
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:23 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Same could be said of anything out of the US side of this one.
Wrong. We said the Supreme Leader was dead and he was in fact dead. Iran tried to deny it for the first 6 hours. Iran has said that we agreed to let them charge tolls every time the ceasefire was extended and yet we agreed to no such thing.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:27 pm to Fuzzy Dunlop
The very second our navy leaves the Iranian area, they'll be back to doing what they've always done and there will be zero ability to enforce or oversee any of their nuclear program.
Massive L. Iran signs a worthless agreement that can't be enforced and now they'll be pumping out missiles and buying defense systems for the next year.
Somewhere, deep down, I hope the civilians have access to firearms and go about regime change.
If not, I feel sad for them. Sold a bill of goods, lost 40k+ in protests and now left with an even more aggressive IRGC.
Brutal.
Massive L. Iran signs a worthless agreement that can't be enforced and now they'll be pumping out missiles and buying defense systems for the next year.
Somewhere, deep down, I hope the civilians have access to firearms and go about regime change.
If not, I feel sad for them. Sold a bill of goods, lost 40k+ in protests and now left with an even more aggressive IRGC.
Brutal.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:27 pm to Fuzzy Dunlop
The Conflict with Iran is over. Be happy. Its done and over.
Time for gas prices to drop and the GOP to win the midterms.
If Iran doesnt comply with the deal, its not difficult to bring back the US military and bomb the hell out of them again until they comply.
Some of you idiots think that Trump isnt going to follow through on whatever was agreed. We are watching Iran.
Time for gas prices to drop and the GOP to win the midterms.
If Iran doesnt comply with the deal, its not difficult to bring back the US military and bomb the hell out of them again until they comply.
Some of you idiots think that Trump isnt going to follow through on whatever was agreed. We are watching Iran.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:29 pm to Tigerfan1274
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The 60-day negotiation period between Iran and the US will only start after the US releases Iranian frozen assets as agreed upon, according to Iran's deputy Foreign Minister
I wouldn't trust those lying assholes with $10 in monopoly money.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:30 pm to Diego Ricardo
I hope this war opens up some seriously needed introspection for how we project power in the 21st century.
What seemed to work.
Economic sanctions, seizing assets, shipping blockades. This seemed to put some real pressure on Iran based on every demand revolving around a release of seized assets. If we want to continue projecting power in the 21st century we need to keep the world wedded to an American-centric banking system. This makes crypto and non dollar backed trade a major threat to our power.
What didn’t seem to work
Shock and awe bombing or military and/or civilian targets. Drone warfare has totally changed the game and in some regards leveled the playing field. Nations like Ukraine and Iran can now target assets far beyond their borders on a shoestring budget and with minimal built infrastructure needed to support it. Drones, submarines and missiles for nuclear deterrence, stealth bombers for large precision strikes, and about 50,000 marines for rapid and short term deployment. People may not want to hear this, but our army and much of our navy is a very expensive 20th relic without a 21st century purpose.
What didn’t seem to work part 2
Largely going it alone. You need allies that share a clear mission focus. If you don’t have allies keep your forces home.
What seemed to work.
Economic sanctions, seizing assets, shipping blockades. This seemed to put some real pressure on Iran based on every demand revolving around a release of seized assets. If we want to continue projecting power in the 21st century we need to keep the world wedded to an American-centric banking system. This makes crypto and non dollar backed trade a major threat to our power.
What didn’t seem to work
Shock and awe bombing or military and/or civilian targets. Drone warfare has totally changed the game and in some regards leveled the playing field. Nations like Ukraine and Iran can now target assets far beyond their borders on a shoestring budget and with minimal built infrastructure needed to support it. Drones, submarines and missiles for nuclear deterrence, stealth bombers for large precision strikes, and about 50,000 marines for rapid and short term deployment. People may not want to hear this, but our army and much of our navy is a very expensive 20th relic without a 21st century purpose.
What didn’t seem to work part 2
Largely going it alone. You need allies that share a clear mission focus. If you don’t have allies keep your forces home.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:32 pm to ned nederlander
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I hope this war opens up some seriously needed introspection for how we project power in the 21st century. What seemed to work. Economic sanctions, seizing assets, shipping blockades. This seemed to put some real pressure on Iran based on every demand revolving around a release of seized assets. If we want to continue projecting power in the 21st century we need to keep the world wedded to an American-centric banking system. This makes crypto and non dollar backed trade a major threat to our power. What didn’t seem to work Shock and awe bombing or military and/or civilian targets. Drone warfare has totally changed the game and in some regards leveled the playing field. Nations like Ukraine and Iran can now target assets far beyond their borders on a shoestring budget and with minimal built infrastructure needed to support it. Drones, submarines and missiles for nuclear deterrence, stealth bombers for large precision strikes, and about 50,000 marines for rapid and short term deployment. People may not want to hear this, but our army and much of our navy is a very expensive 20th relic without a 21st century purpose. What didn’t seem to work part 2 Largely going it alone. You need allies that share a clear mission focus. If you don’t have allies keep your forces home.
Agree with everything you said. Our foreign policy has got to get smarter.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:41 pm to BayouBengal51
You nailed it. Will not be voting in this upcoming midterm. Trump needs to be impeached for negotiating with our enemies.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:42 pm to crazie04
I bet you voted for him 3x right?
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:49 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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If Iran doesnt comply with the deal, its not difficult to bring back the US military and bomb the hell out of them again until they comply.
There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that congress allows him to remobilize troops once they depart the region. Once midterms pass he’s on an island of his own for the remaining two years.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:52 pm to dkreller
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EXPECTED TERMS OF US-IRAN PEACE DEAL:
1. Extends ceasefire between US and Iran for 60 days
2. Begins 60-day negotiation period for technical discussions around Iran's nuclear program
3. Removes US Naval blockade and reopens Strait of Hormuz
4. US will commit to discuss sanctions relief with Iran
5. US will commit to discuss the release of frozen Iranian funds
6. Peace deal includes permanent end to fighting on all fronts, including Lebanon
7. Final agreement to be signed on June 19th in Switzerland
We expect to receive more detail on terms shortly.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:53 pm to dkreller
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I bet you voted for him 3x right?
Just once.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:53 pm to ned nederlander
We never bombed their energy sites. Israel did it once and Trump got so mad. They would have been begging if we had bombed them
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:54 pm to hawgfaninc
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Iranian Mehr News Agency has published the supposed 14 clauses of the MOU
$12 billion of Iran's frozen funds to be released before negotiations begin, with another $12 billion during the 60-day final negotiation window.
Oil and petrochemical sanctions suspended.
Full naval blockade lifted within 30 days.
The U.S. commits to non-interference in Iranian affairs, withdrawal of forces from around Iran, and no new sanctions or force deployments during negotiations.
An immediate ceasefire is required on all fronts, including Lebanon.
The Strait of Hormuz reopens within 30 days under Iranian arrangements.
Iran reaffirms its NPT commitment not to produce nuclear weapons.
A 60-day window is set to negotiate a final deal covering nuclear issues and full sanctions removal.
The U.S. and allies must also present reconstruction plans worth at least $300 billion.
Iran's missile program and support for resistance groups are removed from the agenda entirely.
No final negotiations begin until the $12 billion is released, oil sanctions are suspended, and the blockade is lifted.
A supervisory mechanism will oversee implementation, with any final agreement approved by UN Security Council resolution.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:55 pm to hawgfaninc
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IRAN'S MEHR SAYS THE 14-ARTICLE DRAFT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IRAN AND THE U.S. INCLUDES:
* COMPLETE LIFTING OF U.S. NAVAL BLOCKADE WITHIN 30 DAYS
*WOULD SUSPEND SANCTIONS ON IRANIAN OIL AND PETROCHEMICAL SALES
* IMMEDIATE, PERMANENT HALT TO WAR ON ALL FRONTS, INCLUDING LEBANON
* REOPENING STRAIT OF HORMUZ WITHIN 30 DAYS UNDER IRANIAN ARRANGEMENTS
* NECESSITY FOR U.S. AND ALLIES TO PRESENT RECONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR IRAN AMOUNTING TO AT LEAST $300 BILLION
*ENVISAGES 60 DAYS OF TALKS ON NUCLEAR ISSUES AND FULL SANCTIONS LIFTING
*DRAFT EXCLUDES IRAN'S MISSILE PROGRAM AND SUPPORT FOR RESISTANCE GROUPS FROM FINAL TALKS
*CALLS FOR RELEASE OF $24 BLN IN IRANIAN BLOCKED FUNDS DURING TALKS
*HALF OF IRAN'S $24 BLN BLOCKED FUNDS MUST BE AVAILABLE BEFORE FINAL TALKS START
*FINAL IRAN-U.S. AGREEMENT WOULD BE ENDORSED BY U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:56 pm to crazie04
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Will not be voting in this upcoming midterm.
I gave you an upvote.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:58 pm to hawgfaninc
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$12 billion of Iran's frozen funds to be released before negotiations begin
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