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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:52 pm to
Well, I'd imagine they possess the secret password
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:04 pm to
No dust = no money. I doubt if a deal will be signed. Then trump wiill have to shoot his whole military wad.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:08 pm to
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No dust = no money. I doubt if a deal will be signed. Then trump wiill have to shoot his whole military wad.



Entering "nuking Iran to demonstrate why they definitely should want them" territory
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by holdem Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:31 pm to
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The Patriot Act was the worst legislation ever enacted in the US.


Said the guy who has probably never heard of any loyal American being inconvenienced by it, nor been blown up by terrorists.

You can quibble with the balance between security and freedom, but this statement is overwrought.
Posted by holdem Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:34 pm to
I’m reading that the Israelis have been told that none of that will be dealt with in a way that is satisfying to them (or me).

I’m hearing complete surrender by Trump. Uranium left in Iran. Nothing on missiles or proxies.

Disgraceful
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:42 pm to
more disgraceful that you will not id your sources
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:06 pm to
Which peace deal on we on now? #39 or #40?
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:09 pm to
Yeah, I call bullshite on that one.
Posted by holdem Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:03 pm to
I'll take what the Israelis are saying with a grain of salt right now. Though, I do expect them to have plenty of legitimate gripe with whatever "deal" comes of this, whether or not it is the complete doom and gloom they are floating now or not.
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Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:14 pm to
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Said the guy who has probably never heard of any loyal American being inconvenienced by it, nor been blown up by terrorists. You can quibble with the balance between security and freedom, but this statement is overwrought.


Eh. I remember huddling around a TV in Kuwait watching Colin Powell offer evidence to the UN about WMD. We all walked away thinking “this is gonna be the real deal”.

I won’t speak for others, but I’ll never take another American official at face value.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:18 pm to
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Translated from Persian:

Unverified reports have reached me of the killing of a hardliner in Qom in protest against the potential agreement..

Additionally, tonight in some squares in Mashhad and Tehran, there have been police clashes with protesting hardliners...
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:20 pm to
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What’s happening in Iran right now?

The most hardline elements of the Paydari Front, including figures close to Saeed Jalili such as Hamid Rasaei, Mahmoud Nabavian, and Amir-Hossein Sabeti, are strongly opposed to the proposed deal with the US and view it as a betrayal of Iran’s interests.

They argue that the negotiating team, particularly Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, has crossed Iran’s red lines and made excessive concessions, especially in the aftermath of the assassination of key political and military leaders. Several hardline figures have publicly demanded the resignation of members of the negotiating team, accusing them of surrendering strategic leverage in exchange for a weak deal.

Among the more radical voices, some have gone even further, promoting conspiracy theories that the new Supreme Leader is effectively being controlled or “held captive” by those pushing for negotiations.

These factions are now attempting to mobilize their supporters, increase public pressure, and use every available political tool to block, delay, or undermine any potential agreement.


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Among the more radical voices, some have gone even further, promoting conspiracy theories that the new Supreme Leader is effectively being controlled or “held captive” by those pushing for negotiations.


Ahmad Vahidi right now:

This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 8:26 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:25 pm to
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What are your thoughts on this whole Texas Tech QB gambling issue?


No gamble, no future
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:25 pm to
That is the most clarity we've had in regards to the players involved on Iran's side.

Interesting in that Ghalibaf isn't seen as a "hardliner" given that he has publicly taken hardline stances, even calling for the continued brutal suppression and execution of protesters.

There are no "good" ones involved on their side, IMO.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:27 pm to
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No gamble, no future

I'm starting to think that you're not the real Pete Rose.
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:32 pm to
I can respect that. It’s the safest course for sure
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