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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:26 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:26 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:31 pm to lsuconnman
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The Patriot Act was the worst legislation ever enacted in the US.
Said the guy who has probably never heard of any loyal American being inconvenienced by it, nor been blown up by terrorists.
You can quibble with the balance between security and freedom, but this statement is overwrought.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:34 pm to hawgfaninc
I’m reading that the Israelis have been told that none of that will be dealt with in a way that is satisfying to them (or me).
I’m hearing complete surrender by Trump. Uranium left in Iran. Nothing on missiles or proxies.
Disgraceful
I’m hearing complete surrender by Trump. Uranium left in Iran. Nothing on missiles or proxies.
Disgraceful
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:42 pm to holdem Tiger
more disgraceful that you will not id your sources
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:06 pm to hawgfaninc
Which peace deal on we on now? #39 or #40?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:09 pm to holdem Tiger
Yeah, I call bullshite on that one.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:24 pm to moontigr
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:03 pm to holdem Tiger
I'll take what the Israelis are saying with a grain of salt right now. Though, I do expect them to have plenty of legitimate gripe with whatever "deal" comes of this, whether or not it is the complete doom and gloom they are floating now or not.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:14 pm to holdem Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:16 pm to lsuconnman
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:17 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:18 pm to BayouBengal51
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Translated from Persian:
Unverified reports have reached me of the killing of a hardliner in Qom in protest against the potential agreement..
Additionally, tonight in some squares in Mashhad and Tehran, there have been police clashes with protesting hardliners...
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:20 pm to BayouBengal51
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What’s happening in Iran right now?
The most hardline elements of the Paydari Front, including figures close to Saeed Jalili such as Hamid Rasaei, Mahmoud Nabavian, and Amir-Hossein Sabeti, are strongly opposed to the proposed deal with the US and view it as a betrayal of Iran’s interests.
They argue that the negotiating team, particularly Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, has crossed Iran’s red lines and made excessive concessions, especially in the aftermath of the assassination of key political and military leaders. Several hardline figures have publicly demanded the resignation of members of the negotiating team, accusing them of surrendering strategic leverage in exchange for a weak deal.
Among the more radical voices, some have gone even further, promoting conspiracy theories that the new Supreme Leader is effectively being controlled or “held captive” by those pushing for negotiations.
These factions are now attempting to mobilize their supporters, increase public pressure, and use every available political tool to block, delay, or undermine any potential agreement.
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Among the more radical voices, some have gone even further, promoting conspiracy theories that the new Supreme Leader is effectively being controlled or “held captive” by those pushing for negotiations.
Ahmad Vahidi right now:
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
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What are your thoughts on this whole Texas Tech QB gambling issue?
No gamble, no future
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:25 pm to BayouBengal51
That is the most clarity we've had in regards to the players involved on Iran's side.
Interesting in that Ghalibaf isn't seen as a "hardliner" given that he has publicly taken hardline stances, even calling for the continued brutal suppression and execution of protesters.
There are no "good" ones involved on their side, IMO.
Interesting in that Ghalibaf isn't seen as a "hardliner" given that he has publicly taken hardline stances, even calling for the continued brutal suppression and execution of protesters.
There are no "good" ones involved on their side, IMO.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:27 pm to PeteRose
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No gamble, no future
I'm starting to think that you're not the real Pete Rose.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:32 pm to lsuconnman
I can respect that. It’s the safest course for sure
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:58 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:04 pm to holdem Tiger
They should get Howie Mandel to play Deal or No Deal with Iran.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:52 pm to Goforit
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Growing calls to impeach Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi over the proposed MOU with the United States.
Hardline MP Amirhossein Sabeti has announced plans to pursue Araghchi’s impeachment, accusing him of pursuing dangerous concessions to America and repeating the mistakes of past negotiations.
Sabeti is closely aligned with Saeed Jalili and represents one of the Islamic Republic’s most uncompromising factions. But this goes beyond one political camp.
The significance is that the regime’s own supporters are increasingly turning on one another over negotiations with the United States.
For one side, the regime’s worsening economic crisis makes some form of agreement necessary. For the other, any compromise with America is viewed as betrayal.
The proposed MOU is exposing deep fractures within the Islamic Republic’s core support base. The same movement that once united around revolutionary slogans is now increasingly divided over how to ensure the regime’s survival.
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