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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:14 pm to
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My views are exactly the same as those expressed by President Trump two months ago


Be that as it may, your support appears to have done a 180 now (as I suspected it would) with very little understanding of where this is actually going. You've started quoting Iranian govt propaganda with no indication of suspicion or doubt, while criticizing the Trump administration for everything they say.

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Their [the left] views are the complete opposite of mine.


For somebody who's complete opposite of left, you seem to end up in agreement quite often. Your criticism of Trump's management of the war sounds exactly like the left, just for "different reasons". You're a huge supporter of US involvement in Ukraine, should probably hang a Ukrainian flag by your name like so many of the leftists have done. And honestly, when you say things like, Now all the anti-Americanism is on the Right, it's hard to take any claim of "complete opposite" of left at face value. It's okay to admit that you're a leftist; hyperbolic rhetoric aside, Trump's not going to put you in a camp.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 1:17 pm
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8551 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:14 pm to
Sure Donald
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3353 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:16 pm to
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No money will exchange hands.


How will any of us ever know?

Meanwhile, 2 months from now, all the mullahs and IRGC leadership will be driving new Ferraris, Lambos and McLarens through the streets of Tehran.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9476 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:24 pm to
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No money will exchange hands.


How will any of us ever know?

Meanwhile, 2 months from now, all the mullahs and IRGC leadership will be driving new Ferraris, Lambos and McLarens through the streets of Tehran.



Bessent?
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3353 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:28 pm to
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Bessent?


I was making a joke.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75731 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Bessent?

Maybe, but there is plausible deniability for Donald/us built into the equation. Billions of frozen funds can be sent without us having any binding or legal say in the transaction.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3353 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Maybe, but there is plausible deniability for Donald/us built into the equation. Billions of frozen funds can be sent without us having any binding or legal say in the transaction.


I think most of that money is in Arab banks, so we just blame it on them.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5333 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:50 pm to
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I think most of that money is in Arab banks, so we just blame it on them.


The Patriot Act was the worst legislation ever enacted in the US.

For a decade we enforced a no fly list where you didn’t even know you were listed until you tried to fly, and after your ticket was canceled you weren’t entitled to know the reason.

It’s refreshing to see the international community finally push back. It’s gotten absurd that the US government can just arbitrarily dictate seizure of any international asset as a precondition to be part of the banking community.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3353 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 3:19 pm to
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The Patriot Act was the worst legislation ever enacted in the US.


Be careful. You'll be labeled a Ron Paul / Rand Paul / Thomas Massie apologist infected with TDS.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 3:20 pm
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18200 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 3:27 pm to
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The Patriot Act was the worst legislation ever enacted in the US.


Even the name of the act itself is manipulative.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75731 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 3:30 pm to
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PeteRose

What are your thoughts on this whole Texas Tech QB gambling issue?
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 3:31 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:07 pm to
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?Special forces units attacked the gatherings of Basij and IRGC members at 9 PM in several parts of Tehran using batons and tear gas.

?Once the surrender document is signed, they're done for. All that's left is the right moment for the call to action and overthrow.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:10 pm to
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?I request from all dear opposition members: go read the 14-article text once, and stop using the word "agreement."

?This is called a surrender document.
?They are surrendering—where was the agreement????
?After they fall to their knees, it will be our turn: the call to action, the streets, and revenge for our 50 thousand Javidians.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13406 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:26 pm to
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The left - Trump can’t bomb Iran. Trump must solve through diplomacy.

The left - Trump lost the war. Trump made a bad deal. Trump is weak ( because the left does not support the use of real American military power) and Iran out maneuvered Trump which is the inevitable conclusion when the left does not allow the use of our best negotiating tool which is our military

The left?

You've had self-proclaimed hardcore "conservatives" in this thread doing the exact same thing.

Now that's the joke.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13406 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:32 pm to
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The Iran Deal would start to destroy the regime from within. And Araghchi is trapped. It's lose-lose for the Islamic Republic government.

Yeah...anyone thinking the IRGC comes out stronger in all this is mistaken. The infighting with the folks who "made the deal" and those who wish to die for the virgins is probably going to be pretty rough.

Thanks for hanging in there with the posts hawg.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26778 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:41 pm to
Those in the internal insurrection against the IRGC would make credible forward air controllers pointing out targets...
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56193 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 4:53 pm to
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that poster ("GOP") paints themself as a conservative

How many people do you think GOP_Tiger is? If you are going to keep referring to individuals as “they/them” then be honest and put a rainbow flag in your profile.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10350 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5452 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:33 pm to
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How many people do you think GOP_Tiger is? If you are going to keep referring to individuals as “they/them” then be honest and put a rainbow flag in your profile.


I refer to a third person as they or them when I have no knowledge of their gender. Note my use of a 3rd person plural pronoun (or more accurately, determiner) in the previous sentence. The antecedent of "their" is the singular number, gender neutral noun "person". I could use a slash mark between both genders (he/she, him/her, his/hers), but third person plural has been acceptable in that circumstance for a long time. The Oxford English Dictionary traces such use of singular "they" back to circa year 1375, but says it was likely in usage prior to that.

My writing style may be old fashioned, but I am up to at least 14th century standards most of the time, with the help of the edit feature. But thanks for the tip and let me know if you spot any errors in the future and I'll probably correct them if it seems worthwhile.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 7:12 pm
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6228 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:40 pm to
They are securing their uranium by bombing tunnels making it impossible to get too…

Interesting.
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