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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:24 am to LARancher1991
Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:24 am to LARancher1991
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If tweet fails to load, click here. this does smell bad.Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:25 am to LARancher1991
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Hopefully now he realizes that the only thing this regime understands is death and destruction and that they will never negotiate in good faith.
He should have figured that out within a week after the "ceasefire" began.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:40 am to TulsaSooner78
Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:41 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:49 am to TulsaSooner78
You are correct about that
Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:59 am to texas tortilla
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this does smell bad.
A reporter from Fox News claims he spoke directly to Trump.
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President Trump shared new details about the heroic actions of the US Army Apache helicopter pilots whose quick thinking helped them narrowly escape a fiery death at the hands of a deadly Iranian attack drone.
Speaking to Fox News Wednesday, the president said a drone laden with explosives had “lodged between” the pilots inside the helicopter as it was flying low over enemy territory — fully engulfed in flames, but failing to explode as intended.
“At any moment it could have exploded,” Trey Yingst told the network after speaking with Trump, who called the harrowing incident “a miracle.”
“And so we’re trying to take down the helicopter with the drone lodged into this gunship without it exploding. There was a lot of heat inside the cockpit of this helicopter, and ultimately these two pilots were able to take it down into the sea,” he said, quoting the president.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:37 am to Penrod
So you are referring to Lebanese Americans then? I am talking about the people still in the region.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:38 am to justaniceguy
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So you are referring to Lebanese Americans then?
No sir. Lebanese citizens. I’m well travelled and 1/4 Lebanese.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:41 am to Penrod
The country is currently run by hezbollah. They might see Israel in a more favorable light because of this.
Does this mean they want Israel to control them? Obviously not. Would they prefer it? Maybe for now. Probably not for long.
They want sovereignty. They want to rule themselves. No Israel. No Hezbollah. And that is how it should be.
Israel wants to control Lebanon. I don’t think many Lebanese want that.
Does this mean they want Israel to control them? Obviously not. Would they prefer it? Maybe for now. Probably not for long.
They want sovereignty. They want to rule themselves. No Israel. No Hezbollah. And that is how it should be.
Israel wants to control Lebanon. I don’t think many Lebanese want that.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:06 am to justaniceguy
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They want sovereignty. They want to rule themselves. No Israel. No Hezbollah. And that is how it should be. Israel wants to control Lebanon. I don’t think many Lebanese want that.
I don't see evidence that Israel wants to control Lebanon nor any other sovereign state. They just don't want to be bombed and attacked. I have little doubt that Israel is cynically expanding into the West Bank and would like Gaza, but they have no interest in Lebanon other than self defense.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:13 am to Penrod
Israel wants to create a new Gaza in southern Lebanon that will be a buffer zone so they can keep hezbollah from attacking. This sounds simple enough until you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people who will be displaced due to this. Christians will be displaced, and these people absolutely refuse to leave their ancestral homelands. It will get bad. All of the Christian leaders of Lebanon are completely against this idea. So I’m not sure who you were talking to.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:14 am to TulsaSooner78
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Hopefully now he realizes that the only thing this regime understands is death and destruction and that they will never negotiate in good faith.
He should have figured that out within a week after the "ceasefire" began.
Oh the Orange man knew that was the case. However, he wants a Nobel Peace Prize. Trump also wants to show the world that he is the greatest dealmaker in history. I have to admit that if he got the IRGC to agree to a deal that either removes themselves from power or basically neuters themselves then he probably would deserve that title.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:23 am to justaniceguy
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Israel wants to control Lebanon
I think they want a neighbor who doesn’t launch rockets and attacks at them. To this point Lebanon has not been able to secure their own territory.
Israel may feel its needs to control it for their own safety. Especially if they are doing most of the work of liberating it.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:24 am to jeffsdad
quote:I can neither confirm nor deny that information.
I think that base has been mostly abandoned. Also, its not the first time it has been hit. Someone, correct me if I am incorrect.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:29 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:29 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:38 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:39 am to WeeWee
quote:There is a strangeness about all of this that is difficult to pinpoint. It went from balls-to-the-wall aggression to almost exaggerated restraint, even amongst kinetic provocations. The President’s messages are ambiguous, evasive and somewhat cryptic.
Oh the Orange man knew that was the case. However, he wants a Nobel Peace Prize. Trump also wants to show the world that he is the greatest dealmaker in history. I have to admit that if he got the IRGC to agree to a deal that either removes themselves from power or basically neuters themselves then he probably would deserve that title.
There are occasional reports (from ‘insider sources’ close to negotiators or such) about terms that seem too outlandish one way or another for either side to agree. The leaks about friction between the President and Israel paired with Israel’s relative restraint adds another weird layer.
What cards are on the table and how in the world has Iran managed to bring a war to a snail’s pace with reportedly a depleted or destroyed military? Could some outsider have snuck an ace in somehow? Hell, the actual mediators have a small deck themselves.
Just thinking out loud.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:51 am to Pragmatist2025
I think we got into a hubristic situation and Trump can’t wiggle out of this one as he has his whole private and public career.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:54 am to WeeWee
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However, he wants a Nobel Peace Prize.
This was never going to happen, and it has little to do with any kind of hate or conspiracy. The centerpiece to his "peace" accomplishments is the Israel/Hamas deal in Gaza. The "20 point plan" and the resultant alleged "peace" has never gotten off the ground.
Hamas hasn't disarmed, despite agreeing to it in the deal. Israel hasn't left Gaza, despite agreeing to it in the deal. The member countries of the "Board of Peace" have contributed practically no funding, despite agreeing to it when they accepted the invite. The International Stabilization Force hasn't even been able to really get into Gaza, despite being the organization that is supposed to be responsible for sorting out the mess, per the "20 point Plan". Of course, that could have a lot to do with member countries being wholly noncommittal when it comes to forces, funding, or organization......as they agreed to per the outline of the deal.
Meanwhile, Hamas is still putting up a fight and the Jews haven't stopped whacking them. We have resorted to petitioning the UN Security Council for it to start pressuring Hamas to disarm, despite the fact that the UN has been supportive of Hamas over the past couple of decades and it still refuses to label it a terrorist organization.
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