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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:41 am to sta4ever
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:41 am to sta4ever
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We have no straight reason for why we did this and we have no clue on what to even do to finish this.
Because you are in the intelligence circle deciding these things.
Thanks for your valuable input.
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Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:42 am to Tigerswillprevail
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Lebanese President Joseph Aoun said Hezbollah leader Naim Qassem “doesn’t represent the Lebanese people,” telling CNN that “the Lebanese people are not your people” after Qassem rejected a ceasefire agreement with Israel as a “surrender.” Aoun said Lebanese across sects, including Shiites, are “fed up” with Hezbollah’s war with Israel and “deserve not seeing their homes destroyed every five to 10 years.”
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:42 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:50 am to BayouBengal51
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Lebanese President Joseph Aoun said Hezbollah leader Naim Qassem “doesn’t represent the Lebanese people,” telling CNN that “the Lebanese people are not your people” after Qassem rejected a ceasefire agreement with Israel as a “surrender.” Aoun said Lebanese across sects, including Shiites, are “fed up” with Hezbollah’s war with Israel and “deserve not seeing their homes destroyed every five to 10 years.”
I wonder how legitimately close we are to throwing a Lebanese civil war into this shitty brew we have going on?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:54 am to LegendInMyMind
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I wonder how legitimately close we are to throwing a Lebanese civil war into this shitty brew we have going on?
I disagree that's it's "we." (Perhaps that was the royal we) Iran has setup a terrorist parallel government inside Lebanon that has threatened Lebanese sovereignty for decades. Yet all I hear is that the Israelis are the problem for Lebanon.
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Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:59 am to Tigerswillprevail
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Because you are in the intelligence circle deciding these things. Thanks for your valuable input.
Oh yes. Don’t ask questions, just do and agree with what we say…
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:03 am to sta4ever
But I wanted to ask about Project Freedom, whatever happened there?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:03 am to BayouBengal51
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Lebanese President Aoun accused Iran of using Lebanon as a “bargaining chip” in negotiations with the U.S., saying Tehran was acting “for the sake of their own interest” while the Lebanese people “are paying the price.” In an interview with CNN, Aoun rejected an IRGC statement demanding Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon as part of a U.S.-Iran ceasefire agreement, telling Iran’s elite force: “It’s not your country, it’s our country.” Aoun said Lebanon and Israel had reached a ceasefire implementation agreement after “tough” negotiations, calling it a possible path toward a “just and lasting peace,” though Hezbollah, which was not part of the deal, rejected it.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:06 am to tigervet4
I read Project Freedom was too expensive to continue. An article I read said Iran fired so many cheap drones at our two destroyers who were assisting in the Gulf that they depleted their missile magazines.
This post was edited on 6/5/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:12 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:17 am to BayouBengal51
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Aoun said Lebanon and Israel had reached a ceasefire implementation agreement after “tough” negotiations, calling it a possible path toward a “just and lasting peace,” though Hezbollah, which was not part of the deal, rejected it.
Negotiations between Israel and Lebanon — the government of Lebanon — have been pointless. The Lebanese government is not the hostile party in this, nor is the official Lebanese military. I don't know what the angle with these negotiations is, maybe to publicly exhaust that avenue and make a stronger international case against Hezbollah for Israel (the UN still hasn't officially recognized Hezbollah as a terrorist organization), but it was obvious from the beginning that these particular negotiations would fail miserably as a means to "peace".
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:22 am to TroutGuy
Who could have possibly predicted that, let's go take Kharg.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:30 am to tigervet4
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But I wanted to ask about Project Freedom, whatever happened there?
The story goes that we (the US) to shore up regional support for the continued blockade of Iranian ports and for Project Freedom, worked diplomatically in the background. There was concern from Iran's neighboring countries that there would be damaging retaliation against them from Iran if/when this mission was launched. That was a legitimate concern that we kind of smoothed over by giving vague reassurances that we would protect regional interests.
Predictably, almost immediately upon the start of Operation Freedom Iran began to retaliate against regional interests. Because we were worried about the so-called "ceasefire" we did not want to respond to those Iranian attacks in any meaningful way. This lead to distrust and hurt feelings from our allies in the region, which lead to some of them temporarily closing their airspace to us and halting their cooperation with us. That is when we "paused" Operation Freedom after just a couple of days.
Since then we have relaunched the operation to some degree or another, likely not to the scope we had initially intended.
This post was edited on 6/5/26 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:43 am to sta4ever
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yes. Don’t ask questions, just do and agree with what we say
You aren’t asking questions. You are calling it a disaster when nothing remotely like a disaster has occurred yet. The outlook is decidedly more cloudy. That’s all that’s changed.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:52 am to Tigerstark
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You aren’t asking questions. You are calling it a disaster when nothing remotely like a disaster has occurred yet. The outlook is decidedly more cloudy. That’s all that’s changed.
Then we should have never got involved to begin with if it’s this complicated. That’s what I’m saying. If Israel is so threatened, then they can go handle this themselves. This shouldn’t be cloudy, but it is because we had no legitimate plan or reason for doing this. But like I said, I guess I should just go along with what’s being done, and shouldn’t question, or have any concerns about any of this. I’m tired of the US being tricked into these senseless and seemingly endless Middle Eastern Wars. All of those people over there are lunatics. Let them all kill each other.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:55 am to tigervet4
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But I wanted to ask about Project Freedom, whatever happened there?
Another failure by the US in this conflict. The Iranian people don’t want freedom. They’re just as crazy as their leaders. All that talk about them revolting or wanting change was just propaganda.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:02 am to sta4ever
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This shouldn’t be cloudy, but it is because we had no legitimate plan or reason for doing this.
The plan was regime change. It’s a noble goal and one we should pursue. The Iranian public did not rise up like we wanted them too which is unfortunate. We should have attacked in January when the uprising was actually taking place.
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I’m tired of the US being tricked into these senseless and seemingly endless Middle Eastern Wars. All of those people over there are lunatics. Let them all kill each other.
Grow up. The United States is a global empire and we have a say in what happens in the Middle East.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:07 am to Nomad0369
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The plan was regime change. It’s a noble goal and one we should pursue.
Because the last several regime changes we’ve orchestrated in the region have worked out so well for everyone.
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Grow up. The United States is a global empire and we have a say in what happens in the Middle East.
But when it comes to Europe, we have to backdown, and can’t play global empire am I right?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:14 am to Nomad0369
quote:unless its Europe. Then we need to shut up and stay out of whatever Russia has an interest in am I right
Grow up. The United States is a global empire and we have a say in what happens in the Middle East
This post was edited on 6/5/26 at 10:15 am
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:15 am to sta4ever
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Because the last several regime changes we’ve orchestrated in the region have worked out so well for everyone.
We should have turned our army west and sent it into Iran after we took Baghdad.
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But when it comes to Europe, we have to backdown, and can’t play global empire am I right?
No. frick them too. As far as I’m concerned they should be just another one of our colonies.
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