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Posted on 6/15/26 at 11:35 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/15/26 at 11:36 am to BayouBengal51
so lets see what it ultimately ends up being. ive been holding off on reacting either way but have to admit it doesnt look really good. but still, waiting to see everything come out before melting
Posted on 6/15/26 at 11:36 am to BayouBengal51
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BREAKING: Hezbollah launched a barrage of rockets and an ATGM at an Israeli tank column attempting to advance toward Kfar Tebnit in violation of the ceasefire.
Israeli forces are reportedly trying to reach and occupy Ali al-Taher Hill to access Hezbollah’s mountain base.
An ATGM was fired at Israeli forces now positioned near the Hills base.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 11:40 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/15/26 at 11:49 am to WestCoastAg
I don't believe we will ever know all of the things that the USA and Iran agree to. I certainly don't believe anything Iran says plus politicians are known for lying.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:01 pm to Hobie101
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Winning!!!!
Talking points: [out] not out
Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:22 pm to Hobie101
Did you make those up or get them from some anonymous user on twitter? I think someone overstated the amount spent on war (next to Trump's picture) by a hundred fold or thereabouts, which sort of casts all the other bullet points in a bad light too.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:31 pm to Hobie101
How many did you suck today?
Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:49 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Feel like the content of that image is a bit off but I agree with the general spirit. I think Trump's Iranian policy is hard to support unwaveringly. Mainly because in the moment it is hard to argue we're in a better place in the Middle East now than before he took office for his first term.
Who knows, maybe there has been enough institutional decay in Iran that 1-2 years from a collapse of the theocratic regime. At that point, you may be able to argue it was all worth it. Especially if the new regime is more amenable to the US-led world order. However, I suspect that we'd just get a different hostile power because it is incredibly advantageous to China for Iran to not be in our orbit. So, they're going to be angling for a revolutionary element that they can co-opt just as hard as we are searching for a favorable revolutionary element within Iran.
Who knows, maybe there has been enough institutional decay in Iran that 1-2 years from a collapse of the theocratic regime. At that point, you may be able to argue it was all worth it. Especially if the new regime is more amenable to the US-led world order. However, I suspect that we'd just get a different hostile power because it is incredibly advantageous to China for Iran to not be in our orbit. So, they're going to be angling for a revolutionary element that they can co-opt just as hard as we are searching for a favorable revolutionary element within Iran.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:30 pm to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:31 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:32 pm to Hobie101
We did not spend 8 trillion on this war in three or four weeks. The entire US budget deficit piled up over decades was/is at last check 38 trillion. Please get the facts straight.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:33 pm to Hobie101
So that chart compares 3 years to 8 years. Seems like bullshite.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:38 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:46 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:13 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The Europeans also lifted all their sanctions this morning.
Does anyone know if the sanctions relief is for sanctions imposed at the start of this conflict, or sanctions that predate this recent flair up?
If Iran is getting out from under pre-existing sanctions that is a real turd to polish.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:19 pm to ned nederlander
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Does anyone know if the sanctions relief is for sanctions imposed at the start of this conflict, or sanctions that predate this recent flair up?
My understanding is that they were discussing the end of all sanctions, which would flood the world market with Iranian oil. Similar to what Trump did when he was in office the first time. Last time, that led to the collapse of American exploration and drilling.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:21 pm to TBoy
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Last time, that led to the collapse of American exploration and drilling.
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