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Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:30 pm to Bass Tiger
Are these numbers going to be presented or are they going to just chat about it?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:30 pm to Bass Tiger
This country simply doesn’t deserves leader like Trump. Look what they have done to what is rightfully his. Absolutely disgusting.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:30 pm to Bass Tiger
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So you have some questions? Maybe there’s a possibility some shenanigans did occur on election night?
maybe but nothing they've shown so far is definitive.
yeah i agree with seth there, opensource is the way to transparency. now eveyrone else needs to show their work.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:31 pm to Navajo61490
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Are these numbers going to be presented or are they going to just chat about it?
I’ve heard them mention “Edison” data. Not sure what that data is or who gathered it.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:35 pm to Bass Tiger
Edison is a third party company that aggregates data from all the states and is used by newspaper and tv to show the "live" totals on election night
You've seen plenty of Edison data in the past, it's actually usually the source of all those memes and graphs that show the votes going straight up after midnight and such. Even Trump used them in one of his post election speeches
The problem is that as an aggregate source, it's notoriously inaccurate at the micro level. That's why Dr. Frank was very quick to point out this morning that Edison data can never be relied on as proof of anything, it's just used to see big trends, you always need the actual state data for the proof
You've seen plenty of Edison data in the past, it's actually usually the source of all those memes and graphs that show the votes going straight up after midnight and such. Even Trump used them in one of his post election speeches
The problem is that as an aggregate source, it's notoriously inaccurate at the micro level. That's why Dr. Frank was very quick to point out this morning that Edison data can never be relied on as proof of anything, it's just used to see big trends, you always need the actual state data for the proof
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:37 pm to oklahogjr
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maybe but nothing they've shown so far is definitive.
What about Dr. Frank's presentation isn't definitive? Is it because you haven't seen how he got the numbers he used? Would that do it for you? Seriously, I don't know how anybody couldn't see fraud based on what he presented UNLESS his numbers were off.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:37 pm to OldManRiver
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Edison is a third party company that aggregates data from all the states and is used by newspaper and tv to show the "live" totals on election night
Ok. I’m learning a little bit by watching this Cyber Symposium.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:39 pm to rumproast
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What about Dr. Frank's presentation isn't definitive? Is it because you haven't seen how he got the numbers he used? Would that do it for you? Seriously, I don't know how anybody couldn't see fraud based on what he presented UNLESS his numbers were off.
Just the down ballot anomalies is enough to warrant investigations.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:40 pm to oklahogjr
Anything definitive or is it all supposition?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:46 pm to Bass Tiger
Edison data is the public read only election night tabulation feed that is used by the media to report on election results as they come in. They discussed yesterday that the captured packets were NOT from the Edison data which they said was useless other than for possible corroboration.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:51 pm to rumproast
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What about Dr. Frank's presentation isn't definitive? Is it because you haven't seen how he got the numbers he used? Would that do it for you? Seriously, I don't know how anybody couldn't see fraud based on what he presented UNLESS his numbers were off.
Why dr franks is wrong
i'd like to hear him dispute and update on the points in this article as well as yes i want him to show his work.
how would we know if his numbers were right or not if he's the only one that can look at them?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:54 pm to oklahogjr
I thought she said she had only done about 30 of 51. (DC)
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:57 pm to oklahogjr
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i'd like to hear him dispute and update on the points in this article as well as yes i want him to show his work.
how would we know if his numbers were right or not if he's the only one that can look at them?
So you posted thus yesterday.
The author of this has responded and engaged in comments.
Except for this one.
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Ben,
Dr Frank mentioned tonight that that data he used above was indeed incorrect. He has fixed that error, so you may want to re-evaluate based on the corrected data.
His theory is very compelling.
Why? And why should we trust this guy over anyone else?
Frank is getting infront of a camera to millions if people.
This guy you posted just disappeared.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:59 pm to DiamondDog
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Anything definitive or is it all supposition?
well they definitely haven't provided the evidence they promised.
Kessler has pointed out that some things happen in the election that normally correlate but didn't in this one. which ok, it seems like it was a weird one. which it was.
tech guys have a lot of stuff to go look at.
oh shite. slides are better though.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:59 pm to oklahogjr
You should have went and won yourself $5 million. I don't think you are gaining any traction in this thread.
Yesterday was a shite show but when you the information produced on both days and apply you a little faith in the numbers being true then all this is a bombshell.
And from my understanding the actually data is being presented to the hackers/IT experts there.
Yesterday was a shite show but when you the information produced on both days and apply you a little faith in the numbers being true then all this is a bombshell.
And from my understanding the actually data is being presented to the hackers/IT experts there.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:00 pm to CorchJay
Doing state by state real votes right now.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:01 pm to dgnx6
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Why? And why should we trust this guy over anyone else?
Frank is getting infront of a camera to millions if people.
This guy you posted just disappeared.
getting in front of a camera definitely doesn't mean you're more trustworthy. I mean biden and trump both were on camera all the time, both lie all the time.
again though i'll ask if he had incorrect data before, what is the new data? what was the correction that had to be made and why was there no effect on the model passing in bad data?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:02 pm to CorchJay
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Yesterday was a shite show but when you the information produced on both days and apply you a little faith in the numbers being true then all this is a bombshell.
Mike Lindell made an entire documentary based on made up data. Why would this be any different? Why would anyone trust anything being presented as authentic/factual when historically it has not been.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 7:03 pm
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