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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:52 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:52 am to FooManChoo
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It sounds like they focused on putting together a team of experts in everything but logistics in putting a conference together.
It's frustrating but we have to look at the information, not the quality of the presentation of the information.
The information's credibility is undermined by the inability of the presenters to actually articulate its implications and/or operate a Microsoft Teams meeting.
Messaging is everything for something like this. Everything. All this amateur-hour BS will give the media and the left every bit of the ammo they need to dismiss the whole thing as a loony convention run by whackjobs.
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:54 am to Jax Teller
So code monkey is done I hope? He showed scans of a voter election manual.
For anyone wondering go to the CTH for the two videos that are booms.
For anyone wondering go to the CTH for the two videos that are booms.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:54 am to Vrai
quote:We're not talking about the next iPhone. We're talking about truth claims, and it is fallacious to judge the validity of a truth claim on the person making it or the presentation of that truth claim. It's either true or it isn't.
Wrong. No one is going to pay attention to this shite show. Would you buy from a company if their big pitch to you was this amateur?
I understand how it's difficult for most people to separate the message from the presentation, but a claim is either true, or it's not.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:55 am to Indefatigable
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as a loony convention run by whackjobs.
With special appearance by the LARP-daddy Ron Watkins himself
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:55 am to Blitzed
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So you don’t accept the current administration in the White House.
I didn't vote for Biden, nor do I think he's fit to run a snoball stand, much less the country. But that doesn't change the fact that so far this presentation is a disaster, and this isn't going to change anything in regards to who is in power.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:55 am to Indefatigable
quote:I agree with you that the presentation is not good. I'm just calling out that we need to stay focused on the information, not the presentation, if we care about truth.
The information's credibility is undermined by the inability of the presenters to actually articulate its implications and/or operate a Microsoft Teams meeting.
Messaging is everything for something like this. Everything. All this amateur-hour BS will give the media and the left every bit of the ammo they need to dismiss the whole thing as a loony convention run by whackjobs
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:55 am to FooManChoo
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So they are deleting all the electronic records of this past election? Yeah, that's not fishy at all.
So is there a failure in the process of recordkeeping? It's definitely fishy that the records are deleted but I'm not familiar with the law and process behind it. Are the precincts supposed to keep records also, or are the state agencies supposed to maintain them?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:57 am to FooManChoo
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I'm just calling out that we need to stay focused on the information, not the presentation, if we care about truth.
I understand what you are saying. But the people on this board are not (or should not be) the intended audience.
The audience *should* be the uber-skeptical, the left, and the media. Persuasion is going to be 80% of this, if what is being alleged is true. This is failing mightily in that regard, and probably already fatally so.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:58 am to Monday
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So is there a failure in the process of recordkeeping?
Here is a good example of how a coherent presentation could really drive home the points they are wanting to make.
1) Show on screen clearly that electronic records are being deleted
2) Immediately show any state or county level law or code that says records are supposed to be kept, ie "AZ Election code 102.3.4 says all records to be kept 180 days" or whatever
3) Repeat again that the process has been subverted, and sow more seeds of doubt
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:00 am to OldManRiver
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I didn't vote for Biden, nor do I think he's fit to run a snoball stand, much less the country. But that doesn't change the fact that so far this presentation is a disaster, and this isn't going to change anything in regards to who is in power.
What do you know about what can and can’t change who’s in power? What do you know that we don’t? Or is this just how you feel?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:00 am to Indefatigable
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The audience *should* be the uber-skeptical, the left, and the media.
I was hoping this symposium would persuade election officials at the county level to tighten up their security.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:00 am to oklahogjr
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Franks doesn't have shite and can't prove that.
What do you plan to do with the $5 million?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:01 am to deathvalleytiger10
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What do you plan to do with the $5 million?
Prove to me George Bush didnt orchestrate 9/11 and ill give you $5,000,000
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:02 am to cajunangelle
I watched Douglas Frank's presentation. Damned if that wasn't compelling.....assuming his data is correct. I sent that to a upper level math teacher at a university who is very left leaning and asked her honest opinion on the math. I'll let you know what she says assuming she watches it. If his figures are correct, I don't know how you refute that. It's pretty incredible imo.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:03 am to Indefatigable
I agree with your concern, but most people who care about this stuff aren't watching this symposium. A lot are, but most are not and will be looking for a synopsis. What's important is that the people who care enough about this stuff are getting the right information and will spread it far and wide.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:03 am to cajunangelle
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So code monkey is done I hope?
Why would you "Hope he is done"?
Either he has it.... or he does not. Why not hear him? They have techs in the audience who are going to div in too.
So what's the problem?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:04 am to boosiebadazz
this guy with the bow tie talking to stall called J6 an insurrection. he may be book smart but his Q&A session is opinion. where are the facts?
now a guy is explaining their technical frick up and explaining how he wants to do an essential zoom while manipulating the data to be shown with daddy/son Q codemonkey.
this is so weird and embarrassing.
now a guy is explaining their technical frick up and explaining how he wants to do an essential zoom while manipulating the data to be shown with daddy/son Q codemonkey.
this is so weird and embarrassing.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:07 am to cajunangelle
Looks like Ron was just going to wing his presentation this morning, instead of presenting "evidence", it's more like choose your own adventure
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:08 am to GodnCountry
because so far it was codemonkey showing the same manuals scanned he has shown before. I wish someone would bring it on already. The 2 videos shown so far are money in showing election fraud.
the guy talking now speaks truth. people died so we can have a fair and free election.
the guy talking now speaks truth. people died so we can have a fair and free election.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:09 am to OldManRiver
This would be a serious Geraldo moment if they don't find anything and I doubt they would go through with the examination if they didn't already know what was on it. Sounds like RW is trying to demonstrate that he hasn't had anything to do with the data as to taint it with 'Q' conspiracies that would inevitably come from it if he had.
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