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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.

Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:57 pm to
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Again, I don't give a shite about the differences or lack thereof between the weapons and defer to the largest firearms sellers in the country to decide which fit their definition of suitable for sale.


So the largest firearms sellers should get to dictate what guns are sold in America?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:57 pm to
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Already done. Pages 10-30.



Except...you didn't.

Which is why I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt to list them in addition to your AR-15 ban.

Shouldn't be hard.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69491 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:57 pm to
Hello Bamaatl

I live in Coto de caza, ca

Never in my 20 years here has a single person been shot or even a gun fired

Lots of ppl own guns though

Explain it
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 pm to
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I have yet to use that word incorrectly.


It's all you've done. I even offered to explain it to you. Odd that you passed.

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I'm not sure why you're still harping on this, since you've been shown a dictionary definition that says you're wrong here.




You posted a copy/paste job from fricking Wikipedia.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141558 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Ban on certain types of weapons overwhelmingly used in mass casualty events and little else - e.g. AR-15s Ban on things like bump stocks used to circumvent existing laws limiting power and rate of fire


Little else? Damn, girl.

Ban something that can be replaced with a belt loop or rubber band? Damn, girl.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 pm to
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DisplacedBuckeye



Bout time your grumpy arse showed up.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Except...you didn't.


It's on page 13.

Seriously, the level of incompetence of this board on basic things like "search terms" will never cease to amaze me.

How do you idiots get through a day if you can't find information you want?!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:01 pm to
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you idiots


Explain vehicle registrations to everyone again.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:01 pm to
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I live in Coto de caza, ca

Never in my 20 years here has a single person been shot or even a gun fired

Lots of ppl own guns though

Explain it


Your city has a median income of $169, 176 and a median home price of $1,065,800.

Even you're not too dumb to make the necessary leap, champ.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 9:04 pm
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9853 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:01 pm to
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That John Lott has done work on DGUs is incredibly important - more so when you realize that he faked his data and other studies demonstrate that the true rate is much lower.


Yep, I just double checked, and Lott is still published by the University of Chicago.

Man someone needs to inform them that they are publishing the works of someone who fakes data.

Again, WHY did the CDC include this work and not some sort of notice to the reader that Lott's work has been discredited. Why include it at all, if it's not useful?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:02 pm to
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So the largest firearms sellers should get to dictate what guns are sold in America?


Who's dictating? I thought you guys were all about free enterprise and shite?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:03 pm to
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It's all you've done.


You're gonna want to look at definition 2.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:03 pm to
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dumb enough


Explain vehicle registrations to everyone again.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:05 pm to
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Merriam-Webster




Barely above Wikipedia, but still wrong...
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:05 pm to
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I just double checked, and Lott is still published by the University of Chicago.


And what do you think that means?

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WHY did the CDC include this work and not some sort of notice to the reader that Lott's work has been discredited. Why include it at all, if it's not useful?


Because it's incredibly useful to know that someone's already done work on DGUs and people following up on his work found the numbers to be truthfully much lower when they did it without a biased agenda.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:05 pm to
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Who's dictating? I thought you guys were all about free enterprise and shite?


You are the one that keeps bringing up because Dick's and Walmart and their expertise in firearms...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:05 pm to
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It's on page 13.


Thanks!

Now...shall we begin?
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Repealing the Dickey Amendment to allow for funded studys to better understand the most effective ways to reduce gun violence in the US


Well this doesn't really do anything to reduce gun violence now does it>

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Universal background checks


We have this.
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including private sellers


So you're not for compromise I take it?

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, with removal of shall-issue laws for delays


What's wrong with shall issue laws?

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Comprehensive mandatory registration for all new purchases, in a central searchable database


Infringement on the 2nd. And a pretty blatant one.


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Stricter penalties for straw purchasers


This means what exactly?


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Raise the age for non-hunting rifles to 21, to match handguns


What makes a hunting rifle a hunting rifle? Details please.


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Minimum 3-day waiting period (maybe longer, not sure if there's a good break point data show as better for cooling-off periods)


What impact would this have had on any of the previous mass shootings?


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Passage of Red Flag laws or GVRO's


Ditto.


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Ban on certain types of weapons overwhelmingly used in mass casualty events and little else - e.g. AR-15s


So why are Mini-14s good, but AR-15s not?


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Ban on things like bump stocks used to circumvent existing laws limiting power and rate of fire


And if I can do the exact same thing using rubber bands and a youtube video?


But I'll let you ignore all of the above if you can explain why an AR-15 should be banned, but a Mini-14 is ok to own.


Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Barely above Wikipedia, but still wrong...


You're one of those "I know more about the meaning of words than the dictionary" types?

Spent a lot of time in Scientology school, did you?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:07 pm to
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You are the one that keeps bringing up because Dick's and Walmart and their expertise in firearms...


In classifying them..for sale. Sure.

You guys are on a thin branch when you say the largest seller of firearms by volume in the US can't be relied on to properly classify said firearms.
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