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re: NYT reports - Hormuz oil flow near pre-war level. Iran leverage shrinking.

Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2400 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:26 pm to
It has been this way for a couple months.

Oil bulls have been getting slaughtered.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70505 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:29 pm to
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Are they going to accomplish something for once?


If a republican congress sits at home and doesn't vote a single bill into law that is light-years better than anything a democrat congress has done
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40763 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:30 pm to
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If a republican congress sits at home and doesn't vote a single bill into law that is light-years better than anything a democrat congress has done


Sure, but that's not what they'll do. We'll get more ominbus and CR and the status quo will continue.

I would love to see a shutdown.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29965 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:35 pm to
So it’s the Ukraine and not Iran war causing the fuel price issues
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5727 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:35 pm to
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I would love to see a shutdown.

So you can post about it? Weren’t you just crying about the recess?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40763 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:38 pm to
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So you can post about it? Weren’t you just crying about the recess?


You've never once seen me complain about a government shutdown.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s hollow dome
Member since Feb 2009
160403 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:40 pm to
You have a gift.

You can make the seals tilt like crazy just by sharing your opinion.

It’s amazing.
Posted by Branson
Member since Dec 2023
507 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Obstructionist to what goals exactly?



The goals that the American people voted in to get done. The majority of Americans voted in Trump and maga for the agenda. You may not agree with that or like it but it's true. The senate has some left over trash that needs took out to get some of the agenda accomplished.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40763 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:47 pm to
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The goals that the American people voted in to get done. The majority of Americans voted in Trump and maga for the agenda. You may not agree with that or like it but it's true. The senate has some left over trash that needs took out to get some of the agenda accomplished.


Does that mean draining the swamp, ending foreign wars, putting America first and all the things talked about in 2024?

Or does that mean the increase in government spending, continuing to fund foreign wars, starting new wars, serving the interest of a foreign nation before our own, increasing the police/spy state etc?

Basically are you looking for a limited government at all, or do you just want a government that forces your views on everyone else?


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55863 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:48 pm to
Bunch of posters here said this would not happen because Trump is a meanie head.


I explained this in detail. Closing the strait was about removing Iran's ability to hold the world hostage.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77759 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:52 pm to
It will be even more don't do nothing win or lose.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
13323 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Trump could have helped real conservatives win the primaries, but instead he worked to get them out.


He mostly picked the least of the worst.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70902 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 12:55 pm to
The Hormuz situation is a wild propaganda war. The people who said no oil was getting through were pointing to Kpler to support that. Many people supporting the admin. said Kpler was full of BS. Now, it's going the other way. Kpler and Tanker Trackers are now saying a lot is getting through and the skeptics are saying it's U.S. propaganda.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40763 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:08 pm to
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It will be even more don't do nothing win or lose.


I've heard this same shite for 50 years and it didn't start then.

Remember when they would talk about "The Button" and how you had to vote against Reagan because he would "Push the Button".

In the 60s they pulled it with Goldwater successfully.

In 1800 they said electing Jefferson would lead to the destruction of society.

In 1828 it was claimed that Andrew Jackson would execute his political opponents and collapse the economy. He dismantled the central bank



Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5530 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:09 pm to
Bessent said last Sunday Iran would make its final delivery to China in two weeks and then will have no way to deliver anything else.

So yes, the US has been, and is now, controlling the Strait.

The RINO's may have effectively knee capped Trump in his first term, but this current Cabinet is shitting all over the Globalist regime here in America and abroad.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55863 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Does that mean draining the swamp, ending foreign wars, putting America first and all the things talked about in 2024?


See, thats just as disingenuous as what the msm does. Or as disingenuous as Daboer making claims against you that you say you never made.

Trump never ran on not using the military. In fact, he stayed he would. He called out specifically Iran.

What Trump ran on was no more never ending wars.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40763 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:21 pm to
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See, thats just as disingenuous as what the msm does. Or as disingenuous as Daboer making claims against you that you say you never made.

Trump never ran on not using the military. In fact, he stayed he would. He called out specifically Iran.

What Trump ran on was no more never ending wars.


Ok, I'll put it this way then:

The reason I voted for Trump is because I was under the impression that is what he stood for. If I had at any time been told he would have started a war with Iran, I never would have voted for him.

In fact, the reason I supported Trump over DeSantis is because I was worried DeSantis might do stuff like that.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55863 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:23 pm to
Way to create a narrative out of thin air while not even addressing the what you responded to.


You gnashed at the teeth and sky screamed in the face of facts and what was happening. All you could concentrate on is slamming Trump.


You specifically was shown what was happening and you knew it months ago. You knew that the oil was being rerouted. I gave YOU all of that and even told you the estimated dates that pipelines would be finished and operational.

Still you sky screamed. Now, you want to avoid it all.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100884 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:23 pm to
Lol at all the Panicans
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92246 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:24 pm to
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You tell us you’re the one boasting how you’re voting democrat in the election to get back at orange man bad.



While conservatives and Democrats gave him the immigration he supposedly hates.


Who gave us the visas they all hate? Bush.

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