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re: NY restaurants raising prices to cover minimum wage increase
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:04 pm to Crimson Wraith
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:04 pm to Crimson Wraith
Well, it’s not hard to figure out that enough New Yorkers aren’t going to pay $25 for the burger at that brasserie on Lexington Ave and someone’s going to lose their $15/hr job when fewer people dine there and go to Shake Shack. Oh, and then that barista, waiter, cashier, stock clerk goes on the dole and gets paid out of New Yorkers’s and everybody else’s taxes. Then, she can run for Congress from NYC.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:08 pm to Tiger Prawn
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In 2013 it was $7.25, then increased to:
12-31-2013 - $8.00
12-31-2014 - $8.75
12-31-2015 - $9.00
12-31-2016 - $11.00 ($10.50 if 10 or fewer employees)
12-31-2017 - $13.00 ($12.00 if 10 or fewer employees)
12-31-2018 - $15.00 ($13.00 if 10 or fewer employees)
12-31-2019 - $15.00 for all NYC employers
So they basically raised the minimum wage by 67% over 3 years and thought small businesses with 10-20 employees were just going to be able to absorb that kind of increased payroll cost without charging more
That is the kind of facts I was looking for.
Our local min wage just increased from $8 to $9 an hour and yes I fully expect that most businesses will simply have to eat that extra cost, because if they raise prices customers will bitch. And for the most part the have.
Because you know , $1-1.50 raise over 3 years or whatever isn't a big deal and can be absorbed. After all, do companies raise prices every time they give an employee a raise? Of course not.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:09 pm to MoneyShaker
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You are wrong, but that's a discussion for another thread
How so?
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Suffice to say, stupidity like what you just posted is how stupidity like "the national minimum wage should be $15 an hour" is allowed to gain any traction.
The market dictates what a job is worth. Not the govt.
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Sadly though while the Republican largely rejects the ignorant the Democrats embrace it.
I’m for less govt interference. Obviously you aren’t.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:21 pm to Crimson Wraith
And just like Seattle, some of these places will close and then no one will have a job.
Didn’t the bar AOC worked at close for this reason?
Didn’t the bar AOC worked at close for this reason?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:35 pm to beerJeep
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What? You mean if cost of labor goes up, the price of goods and services reflect that increase?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:39 pm to MoneyShaker
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Because you know , $1-1.50 raise over 3 years or whatever isn't a big deal and can be absorbed.
Based off what?
you're assuming the cost on everything else to run a business remains the same or decreases in cost or businesses have a 150% price margin that they can simple just absorb $10k,20k, or more per year in salary.
Min wage moving from $8 to $15 will increase over $70k for payroll for most businesses of 5 employees or more, per year. That's just 1 variable in the cost to run a business. This is what dimwits that don't understand business, never ran a business like Bernie,AOC don't realize. You have no other choice but to raise prices, lay off staff or shut down.
They always talk about Starbucks, Walmart but never mention the local mom/pops businesses that get caught up in it, who will have to layoff and raise prices.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:50 pm to Crimson Wraith
I have had this argument with some leftist friends. My point is that in the end you/me will be paying out the wazoo for this..These people who are going to be paying more taxes run the services that we count on for our daily needs..not just luxury items. They will not do without their profits.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:55 pm to Crimson Wraith
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raising prices to adjust for the higher salaries they must pay workers
The increase is over all industries, so prices for goods and services across the board will increase, thus the poor who are getting minimum wage still can't afford goods and services.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 3:59 pm to MoneyShaker
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I believe I could make a very good case that the national wage is necessary and that it many areas it is too low
I know I could make a better case that eliminating the minimum wage would do far more good than raising it
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:00 pm to Crimson Wraith
Should do wonders for the tourism industry
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:06 pm to MoneyShaker
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12-31-2019 - $15.00 for all NYC employers
I’m guessing this also includes servers and bartenders in the city, so there is no longer any need to tip these folks.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:06 pm to Crimson Wraith
This has been the result in every place that has implemented this moronic idea, yet the imbeciles elected by other imbeciles persist with doing it. Trash in, trash out.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:11 pm to Crimson Wraith
Let's just go back to slavery so us middle class folks can eat out for real cheap!
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:52 pm to Woody Glazer
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Let's just go back to slavery so us middle class folks can eat out for real cheap!
No Lets just frick up the economy so much that we destroy the middle class and we can either be Rich or poor
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:19 pm to bstew3006
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Min wage moving from $8 to $15 will increase over $70k for payroll for most businesses of 5 employees or more, per year. That's just 1 variable in the cost to run a business. This is what dimwits that don't understand business, never ran a business like Bernie,AOC don't realize. You have no other choice but to raise prices, lay off staff or shut down.
This
As a physician, payroll/labor is my largest expense. And unlike a restaurant, I cannot just raise my prices. So I have two options, close shop and work for a hospital who can absorb those costs due to downstream revenue that a physician produces but has an increasingly more difficult time profiting from in private and group practice. Or I can stop taking insurance (which in some locations and for some specialties is not an option).
With those two options, one of two things happen. Care becomes more expensive as more people are driven to hospital based practices where facility fees are higher and charges and reimbursements from insurance companies are also higher. Care becomes harder to get as more and more physicians no longer accept your insurance. Increasing the minimum wage will make healthcare even more expensive than it already is. But nobody ever talks about that, only that their food is more expensive and restaurants are closing down...
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:23 pm to Woody Glazer
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Let's just go back to slavery so us middle class folks can eat out for real cheap!
I can't tell whether this is made out of earnest ignorance or deliberate equivocation.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:36 pm to Crimson Wraith
Wait until these folks making $15 per hour realize they have to pay more in taxes and/or get their hours cut. Short sighted raises.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:47 pm to Zach
quote:And they leave that tip cup out, which is obnoxious. Starbucks baristas are the poorest example of labor affecting price.
That can't be right. It implies that Starbucks pays less than $15/hr in NY. SB pays $15 here in Bossier.
Now, they do keep raising prices but not for wages. They give medical benefits and online college tuition (which Schultz calls 'free college for everyone.')
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:55 pm to MoneyShaker
quote:I hope you didn’t pay a school to teach you any of this for this nonsense.
Our local min wage just increased from $8 to $9 an hour and yes I fully expect that most businesses will simply have to eat that extra cost, because if they raise prices customers will bitch. And for the most part the have.
Because you know , $1-1.50 raise over 3 years or whatever isn't a big deal and can be absorbed. After all, do companies raise prices every time they give an employee a raise? Of course not.
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