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re: Nuclear Lobby Fights Back as GOP Slashes Clean Energy Incentives

Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73232 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:45 pm to
I support nuclear, but we have yet to solve a huge question:


Where to store the waste?

Nevada residents do not want it at yucca and Louisiana residents have repeatedly voted down the plan to build a nuclear waste facility in Cameron parish
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1860 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Eh, initial cost is staggering. Steady state is actually pretty cheap compared to other sources of energy.


And the energy return on energy invested is terrific.
Posted by Kipsgto
Member since Sep 2022
52 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:53 pm to
I wish I could upvote this more.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170781 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Eh, initial cost is staggering.

Which is why it can't be ignored

Posted by UFCST63
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
551 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:05 pm to
The two nuclear plants keep their waste in dry cask storage on site.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36501 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:07 pm to
I don’t want to get in a fight with nuclear power
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120339 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:08 pm to
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It’s usually local politicians, lawyers, judges, etc that are pissed they aren’t getting the lease or easements. Normal people can’t put up a fight.


Exactly. If anyone thinks the US is "for the people, by the people".. that's a pipe dream.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86625 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:28 pm to
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100%


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Scruffy


I thought you were smarter than that .
Nuclear definitely gets a bad rep, and should be used more. But thinking it could replace all fossil fuel generated electricity is delusional. While some of the cost of nuclear power plants is ridiculous because of "too safe" designs, it would still be very capital intensive.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16779 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:34 pm to
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Nuclear definitely gets a bad rep, and should be used more. But thinking it could replace all fossil fuel generated electricity is delusional. While some of the cost of nuclear power plants is ridiculous because of "too safe" designs, it would still be very capital intensive.

Being beholden to any single form of generation is a bad idea. Balance is good. They all have things they’re good at and different costs. Diversification of type and location will make the grid more resilient.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14435 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:36 pm to
Nuclear is the answer not the problem.. any opposing are simply ill informed or have an agenda..

Many times I believe they come out and make these broad declarations simply to get the industry to pump money into their lobbyists friends and campaign coffers
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16779 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:40 pm to
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any opposing are simply ill informed or have an agenda..

They’re opposing it because they need more revenue to cover their spending and eliminating Ira tax credits is an easy spot to look at.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:55 pm to
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Need the current generation of old timers to die off, they remember 3 Mile Island and Chernobyl and its scary to them.


While true, the main issue that remains is natural gas and coal are still so damn cheap compared to nuclear.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Being beholden to any single form of generation is a bad idea.


Just an FYI energy usage in the US is currently sourced as follows:

Solar: 0.89 quads
Nuclear: 8.9 quads
Hydro: 0.82 quads
Wind: 1.5 quads
Geothermal: 0.15 quads
Natural Gas: 33.4 quads
Coal: 8.17 quads
Biomass: 5.0 quads
Petroleum: 35.4 quads

One quad is one quadrillion BTUs (10^15).
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14435 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:14 pm to
While true, the main issue that remains is natural gas and coal are still so damn cheap compared to nuclear.

True.. but the government is a major issue in that cost structure.. nuclear is a public infrastructure need that should be treated as such.. the future relies on energy and the cost curve on nuclear and future innovations within will get more favorable as we get down the road
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94013 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:15 pm to
But FunBunch of cucks said the GOP big bill funded greene energy for infinity?

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78333 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:19 pm to
we figured out how to power the country with glowing rocks and are afraid too because the soviets were bad at things.

Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4865 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:19 pm to
Nuke lobby, boy those frickers have not earned a penny of their salaries for the last 40 years.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16779 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:22 pm to
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Nuke lobby, boy those frickers have not earned a penny of their salaries for the last 40 years.

It’s been subsidized for 20 years. But even that hasn’t been enough. The only way it will prosper if with even more subsidization or indemnification from the feds.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:25 pm to
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Where to store the waste?


It’s a big issue.

5-20% of a nuclear project dollars needs to go to waste handling.

Waste handling costs for smaller SMRs tend to be higher than the larger conventional plants because of economies of scale.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 9:27 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108267 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:28 pm to
Many old timers have pushed for nuclear. I even own quite a bit of stock in nuclear related companies. Why we haven’t transitioned to it already is a source of great frustration.
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