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re: NTSB says medical jet was in the air for less than a minute before crash in Philadelphia

Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12782 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:11 pm to
Cartels sent a message. It’s why Mexico is suddenly placing tariffs
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21949 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:12 pm to
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People the donate to Shriners.


I know... it'd be interesting to know if this were a pooled, general donations expense versus a targeted single donor funding.

I don't know what it would matter, really... I am bored at the moment and would simply be interested in digging in. I should probably go touch some grass.
Posted by Carnac
Redemption, Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
128 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:12 pm to
Had to be a massive structural failure. Planes don’t just fall out of the sky. Even with engine failure the glide and speed can be controlled.

The glide path of a Lear is kinda like a brick.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19376 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:18 pm to
I’ve had the satisfaction in experiencing Shriners generosity. Not only with the helping for my son but with offers for flights at no corset through people associated with them. You’d be surprised at the network they have
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21949 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:20 pm to
That's pretty cool, I am glad it is available to those who need care for their children.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6489 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Charitable donations from whom?



Good question.

Maybe it was a cartel Familia with their body guards.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24865 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Charitable donations from whom?


Probably a cartel. They’re pretty good at the hearts and minds game.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97055 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:18 pm to
I know of several Mexican and Argentine people who got preferential access for Covid shots.

They flew their private jets to the US to get the jab - and this was while everyone else here domestically was waiting.

So their Lear jet isn’t that out of the ordinary IMO
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
66703 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:25 pm to
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I know of several Mexican and Argentine people who got preferential access for Covid shots.

They flew their private jets to the US to get the jab - and this was while everyone else here domestically was waiting.

So their Lear jet isn’t that out of the ordinary IMO

No doubt.

I spent 5 years in Argentina and one year in Costa Rica in the late 80's and early 90s. I've travelled extensively throughout Mexico, South America and Central America. It's changing somewhat now, but there was almost no middle class back then in Latin America. There were the poor and the uber rich. Very little in between
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5400 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Did you even attempt to research?


Didn't you, just the other day, make a instantly debunked post saying that the pilot was that Jo Ellis person and then backtrack that it was something like "to open the dialogue" or some shite like that? What was the level of research you did? And how often do you question whether people researched the claims people make on here?
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17502 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Had to be a massive structural failure


No longer than it was in the air.. it was probably something as small as the pilots not extending the flaps prior to takeoff.

There was a flight that crashed in Dallas back in 88 of the same thing.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22980 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:43 pm to
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This child must have been from one seriously wealthy Mexican family if they flew a Lear jet from Mexico to DC just to get her treatment


Often patients with serious conditions when travelling for treatments have to fly private because they are too ill to fly commercial. In this case, I am sure a charity donor paid for it.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10382 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

co-pilot Josue De Jesus Juarez Juarez.


I'm gonna guess he has family from Juarez.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:53 pm to
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This child must have been from one seriously wealthy Mexican family if they flew a Lear jet from Mexico to DC just to get her treatment
and maybe, just maybe, therein lies the answer to what happened.

We shall see.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4233 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 6:03 pm to
The ceiling was 400 feet. Looks like a spatial disorientation loss of control. Kind of surprising for that kind of jet. It was a 1989s model. It will be interesting to learn what avionics were in the panel.
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