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Notice to Progressives: Remote learning hurts America's most vulnerable kids

Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:40 am
The far left radicals that want to shut down the economy during an election year - you are hurting the most vulnerable kids in America by keeping schools closed. Do not let them be cannon fodder in your war against Trump.

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Remote Learning Pushes America’s Most Vulnerable Students Further Behind

WSJ - July 2020



JACKSON, Miss.—After schools shut down in March, LaKenya Bunton would get home around 7 a.m. from an overnight quality-control job at a factory, doze for a few hours, then become teacher to her 16-year-old son, Amarrius.

Her son, a rising sophomore, had received no remote-learning materials from his school and didn’t hear from most of his teachers. Ms. Bunton’s method included collecting Amarrius’s cellphone and handing him the day’s work: a packet of practice college-prep questions she printed from the internet.

“I’m educating him the best way I can,” said Ms. Bunton, a 41-year-old single mother. “I don’t want him to be behind.”

With the next academic year quickly approaching, school districts and parents everywhere are racing to figure out how to resume learning during the coronavirus pandemic—with the interruption that upended the last school year beginning to look like a longer-term disruption. Los Angeles’s school system said Monday it will start the year online, while New York City recently announced a plan to bring students back to classrooms part time. Districts have to weigh the potential public-health risks of bringing students into classrooms against the shortcomings of remote-learning programs, which schools hastily rolled out in the spring with generally dismal results.

The problems were amplified for children in the nation’s worst-performing schools, including at Jackson Public Schools, where 95% of the students are Black and just as many are considered low income. District parents say if education is the great equalizer, their children are at a growing disadvantage.

These schools and their communities were already working to overcome legacies of racial inequities when the killing of George Floyd spurred national protests and broader actions to address racism. The pandemic set them even further behind.

In Jackson, like in many other districts, school officials essentially gave up on requiring remote learning last spring. In late April the district allowed children who were passing before the shutdown to skip the last two months of school and still receive an overall passing grade. Some students didn’t have internet access or parents available to help. Even some teachers couldn’t get online at home when schools closed.


Ms. Bunton and other parents said they tried to get homework packets with the rest of the year’s curriculum from their children’s schools, but were told there were none.

Jackson Schools Superintendent Errick Greene said the district was ill prepared for the pandemic. Beyond connectivity issues, Dr. Greene noted that some parents have their own challenges helping their children learn. About 28% of Jackson school parents age 25 and up had no more education than a high-school diploma, and almost 12% had less school than that, according to a five-year estimate in 2018 by the Census Bureau.

“We were caught flat-footed,” Dr. Greene said.

Preliminary research suggests students nationwide will return to school in the fall with roughly 70% of learning gains in reading relative to a typical school year, and less than 50% in math, according to projections by NWEA, an Oregon-based nonprofit education-services firm. It expects a greater learning loss for minority and low-income children, who have less access to technology and whose families are more likely to be affected by the economic downturn.

About 26 million public-school students, just over half in the U.S., are considered low-income and rely on free or reduced-price meals at school.


And to teacher unions that want to close down schools: If kids are only getting 50% of be benefit (as the article states) in math and sciences over a real curriculum, teachers should only be getting 50% pay. And there's no point in keeping those facilities empty - let's turn empty public schools into Covid-19 treatment centers for people too sick to return to nursing homes.

In fact, online instruction doesn't need to be handled by the school district at all. We can pay college students across the country $15/hour with no benefits to facilitate these lectures online part time and fire the teachers.

The schools MUST reopen. Teachers that actually care about the students will support reopening. Get your asses back to work.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:45 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47450 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:42 am to
You think that makes them less likely to support remote learning?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87755 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:43 am to
The thing about arguments like this are that they rest on the false premise that leftist ideology springs from some concern for the vulnerable.

This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:43 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25988 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:44 am to
quote:

online instruction doesn't need to be handled by the school district at all. We can pay college students across the country $15/hour with no benefits to facilitate these lectures online part time and fire the teachers.

You know not of what you speak.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125189 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:44 am to
Right. It’s why they are so quick to want to cut Charter schools in favor of public schools that might as well be a prison minor league.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25988 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:45 am to
quote:

The far left radicals that want to shut down the economy during an election year - you are hurting the most vulnerable kids in America by keeping schools closed. Do not let them be cannon fodder in your war against Trump.

I'm not sure what you're saying.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2260 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:46 am to
quote:

In fact, online instruction doesn't need to be handled by the school district at all. We can pay college students across the country $15/hour with no benefits to facilitate these lectures online part time and fire the teachers.


I’m sorry that you have such a low opinion of teachers and what it actually takes to educate our youth. That said, do you know the biggest risk to schools staying open? Irresponsible parents who will send their kids to school regardless of symptoms.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68609 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Ms. Bunton’s method included collecting Amarrius’s cellphone and handing him the day’s work: a packet of practice college-prep questions she printed from the internet. “I’m educating him the best way I can,” said Ms. Bunton, a 41-year-old single mother.

Props to her
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I’m sorry that you have such a low opinion of teachers and what it actually takes to educate our youth.


Did you read the article? Online learning simply doesn't work for these kids. There's no reason to have a high opinion on something that's proving to be a disaster right in front of us.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15152 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:50 am to
quote:

And to teacher unions that want to close down schools: If kids are only getting 50% of be benefit (as the article states) in math and sciences over a real curriculum, teachers should only be getting 50% pay.


Haha, that's cute how you think pay should be linked to performance!

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

It’s why they are so quick to want to cut Charter schools in favor of public schools that might as well be a prison minor league.


Teachers Union for LA County schools demanded a shut down unless the charter schools were permanently closed.

It's not about Covid.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
24257 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:51 am to
It helps the leftist long term goals

Stupid kids turn into stupid adults
Stupid adults vote democrat
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:52 am to
I live right smack in the middle of the Colville Indian Rez and half the students here in this remote area don't have cell phone coverage or internet service and they are talking now of remote schooling here too. Sure glad my kids have all graduated.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2260 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:55 am to
I am not debating that having kids in class is by far the best option of kids and their education. I responded to your idiotic premise that paying an unexperienced, under qualified kid $15 an hour is a sufficient substitute to professional instruction. If you want to throw out stupid emotionally driven dribble, expect someone to let you know you are a asshat.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The thing about arguments like this are that they rest on the false premise that leftist ideology springs from some concern for the vulnerable.



It's pretty clear that the left is actively looking for any excuse to keep schools closed. Their goal is economic destruction and upheaval before the election.

They don't give a hoot about the students.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41897 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:58 am to
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That said, do you know the biggest risk to schools staying open? Irresponsible parents who will send their kids to school regardless of symptoms.


So, you support shutting down the schools during flue season then? Because for children, the flu is much more deadly than Covid is.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I responded to your idiotic premise that paying an unexperienced, under qualified kid $15 an hour is a sufficient substitute to professional instruction.


These "professionals" are not proving an impact in the context of online learning.

quote:

If you want to throw out stupid emotionally driven dribble, expect someone to let you know you are a asshat.


There's a WSJ article supporting my stance that online instructions handled by these "professionals" simply doesn't work.

Let me know when you get around to providing a fact-based argument that online instruction must be handled by local school districts that have proven to be ineffective with online instruction.

If teacher unions insist that we shut down the schools and provide an even shittier educational experience to the students via online learning, there's no reason to pay top dollar for local teachers to facilitate those remote classes. We don't need to pay teachers LA County wages and benefits when they aren't actually going to be in the classroom. Remote learning doesn't need to be handled by local teachers if they are never in contact with the students.

And yes, I do have a low opinion of teacher unions - especially now.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I responded to your idiotic premise that paying an unexperienced, under qualified kid $15 an hour is a sufficient substitute to professional instruction


Professional instruction isn't producing results with remote learning.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:15 am to
We are going to pay a dear price for the gap in education that kids are going to have due to COVID.

Why on earth, with technology as it is, they weren't already up and ready with virtual classrooms, is a question that really needs answering. It ain't the ideal situation but its far better than what we have done....most kids have little to no school work since March and probably won't do much until this time next year. Its gonna be a problem...
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:

I’m sorry that you have such a low opinion of teachers and what it actually takes to educate our youth. That said, do you know the biggest risk to schools staying open? Irresponsible parents who will send their kids to school regardless of symptoms.


Many have no option. They don't earn a living wage while their employer is living large, often times pretending to be a philanthropist, and the rest of us admire the employer and cuss the employee. Many young families use the school system as day care so they can make a living. I know y'all are of the opinion that no one should have kids until they can afford to do so but nature does not respect such man made constraints....if it did the vast majority of us would not be here....very few of us had parents who could afford us...they just made the best of a bad situation.
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