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Not sure how I feel about the forthcoming nfrastructure stimulus.

Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6572 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:29 pm
Hearing a lot about Trump pushing through a major stimulus to build roads, bridges, ports and airports. Obviously we are going to have to pay for this with taxes.

When Obama did this in 2009, I wasn't entirely opposed to it, but I can't name one single thing that it bought which benefitted me.

What is the poll board view? Obviously our infrastructure is old and decaying and needs to be modernized.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:31 pm to
It'll be ok...We're gonna consumer spend like its 1925, 1953, and 1986

Wall Street will be the Wild West again, and teenage girls will be smoking cigarettes inside of department stores after school.

Note the 30 year cycles... #history
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68063 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Hearing a lot about Trump pushing through a major stimulus to build roads, bridges, ports and airports. Obviously we are going to have to pay for this with taxes.


One of the few things the Federal Govt should be doing.
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:33 pm to
#shovelready
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:33 pm to
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build roads, bridges, ports and airports.


re build. repair. nothing "new"

you claim nothing benefitted you. did you stay the whole time in a bayou on a pirogue?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45801 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:34 pm to
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When Obama did this in 2009


That was not one-time money, the stimulus money is still in the budget and compounding annually.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34882 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:35 pm to
Obama's spending re 'Infrastructure' ("shovel-ready jobs") was little more than a slush fund for Dem Operatives/Organizations. Trump's will be the real deal.

They are going to inflate the money enough to cover interest on the Debt. We may as well get something for that money. I'm for citizens WORKING to rebuild critical infrastructure. Win-win.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:36 pm to
Infrastructure investment is probably better than most government investments.

BUT if they're going to do it, we need to hold them accountable for doing it efficiently, although that may be too idealistic.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54203 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:41 pm to
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BUT if they're going to do it, we need to hold them accountable for doing it efficiently, although that may be too idealistic.


Maybe not. Trump has a penchant for doing things the right way it appears when it comes to building stuff.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:42 pm to
Trump is a builder... he builds the biggest and the best... that's what he does, and I have 100% faith it's what he will do
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:43 pm to
There's already a lot of money from gasoline taxes to start this. All of the gas tax used to go to roads only in the 80's. The Democrats moved the money to city buses, railroads, inner city transportation, studies for Environmental Protection, studies[by Democratic donors] for the Interior and Parks, all wasted. All of the Gas Tax needs to go to roads only. That's how we voted in the 80's, it all got moved to Liberal Democrat projects.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10195 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:45 pm to
Who gives a shite...we re already running a $20T deficit $1T more ain't going to make a hells bit of differerence at this point. It's all imaginary figures anyway. Need more money just print more!

As Rotten famously said: At this point, What difference does it make?

Get on the mutha fricking MAGA train or get the frick run over!!

We rebuilding this muthafuricker!!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67027 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:46 pm to
Obama's stimulus was lampooned by the right, not because it was a massive expenditure of public money during a recession, not because it added money to the deficit, but because the money did not go to what Obama said it would go to.

We need major infrastructure investment in this country. Our highways are overburdened, our bridges are aging, most of our dams aren't even inspected regularly and could be on the brink of collapse and we wouldn't even have a clue. We are dying for infrastructure and our state and local governments cannot keep up with the demand either.

If Trump wants a massive stimulus package for infrastructure, as long as that money actually goes to infrastructure rather than paybacks to campaign contributors like Jamaican rum distillers and solar panel manufacturers, then it will be something I can support despite it being a massive government expense. Transportation infrastructure is one of the few things virtually all Americans can agree is within the federal government's scope of enumerated powers. It's basically the only thing that the federal government does that we all benefit from and is completely uncontroversial.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:46 pm to
Obama spent 3% of his stimulus on infrastructure, and 97% on boosting various kinds of welfare programs. That's not an exaggeration.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45801 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:50 pm to
Trump can take the stimulus money that congress and Obama left in the budget and move it to infrastructure...
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

All of the Gas Tax needs to go to roads only


This is classically how good programs are undermined and lose their ability to do what they were designed for.

Social Security is exactly the same it has been robbed, stolen from and devalued and made available to it seems anyone.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

Who gives a shite...we re already running a $20T deficit $1T more ain't going to make a hells bit of differerence at this point. It's all imaginary figures anyway. Need more money just print more!
Well then, might as well forgive all student loans. I'd gladly accept it, especially given your logic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:55 pm to
quote:


When Obama did this in 2009, I wasn't entirely opposed to it, but I can't name one single thing that it bought which benefitted me.


Areas that heavily support Democrats benefitted the most.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:00 pm to
It would be nice if I could go to someone's house in New Orleans without neighborhood streets treating my car like I was driving through 1945 Berlin
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24858 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

nfrastructure stimulus
our country needs it. Damn the cost
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