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re: No, you are not on Indigenous land
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:03 pm to Penrod
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:03 pm to Penrod
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frick no, it's not us. We are people; surely you agree with that? Does that mean we are responsible for everything people have done?
When you discuss something that happened as a nation, from government down to grassroots, that’s part of “our” history as Americans
When you discuss the national identity, that is part of it.
I dont think we all need to go back to the old world. But when we talk about our history, we sorta need to acknowledge it was the founders and some
of our grandparents
who were doing this stuff.
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:04 pm to Penrod
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So what? That native population screwed over others. That's the point you seem to miss.
maybe. there still seemed to be a native population when we got here, so idk if it was as bad as what happened next.
Maybe you’re a precolonial historian who can educate me on various tribal treaties that they consistently violated.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:07 pm to SammyTiger
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there still seemed to be a native population when we got here, so idk if it was as bad as what happened next.
And there is still a native population today - you and me if I have to explain.
So by your own logic...
And really "tribal treaties "? They just massacred each other. They didn't know how to write.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:11 pm to StansberryRules
quote:damn straight, and we’re fortunate to be here to experience it, for now, these things some refuse to know
Every single square mile of inhabited land on the plan has been conquered and reconquered dozens of times over, sometimes hundreds.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
The Native American Indians have stories about a tall race of red headed humans that they fought and exterminated that were here in the Americas before they arrived.
In their defense, the original natives were cannibals.
In their defense, the original natives were cannibals.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:32 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:Jordan controlled the west bank and Egypt controlled gaza for almost 20 years yet neither created a Palestinian state.
Now do Palestine.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:39 pm to Penrod
quote:slavery still exists today. It's not the US doing it so no one really gives a shite
A very similar tract could be written about slavery. Everybody did it.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:40 pm to CoachChappy
For the same reason, this requires us to oppose immigration.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:42 pm to Penrod
quote:
And really "tribal treaties "? They just massacred each other. They didn't know how to write.
So you know about all these massacres from the not history they didn’t write?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:48 pm to Tantal
quote:
This is what happened to the Washington Redskins. The name got changed due to outcry from white Karens, not Indians.
I once had a discussion about that with a white dude.
swore to me that name was "racist as frick" and couldn't believe I didn't agree.
so I asked him point blank "if the people for whom the team was named says it's not racist, and are in fact trying to get the team to bring back the name and logo, then who the hell am I to say it's racist?"
and his answer was seriously "well they're wrong, it's absolutely racist"
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:02 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:
and his answer was seriously "well they're wrong, it's absolutely racist"
Translation: "Those idiots don't know anything. They should let us, the white people with superior intellect, decide what's best for them."
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
Perhaps that is what Woody Guthrie was conveying when he wrote, This land is your land, this land is my land....
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:53 pm to Big Scrub TX
Actually, the Indians didn't give the Europeans any diseases. check out this YouTube video by a guy called CGP Grey LINK
But sorry Indians we won, you lost. Maybe we could have been more gracious victors, but let bygones be bygones.
But sorry Indians we won, you lost. Maybe we could have been more gracious victors, but let bygones be bygones.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:40 pm to BrownLeft Shoe
quote:I was under the impression they did bring syphilis back to the Old World.
Actually, the Indians didn't give the Europeans any diseases.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:05 pm to Grassy1
quote:
What reasons should American taxpayer dollars be used to conquer land for the premier elite country of Israel?
Maybe because they are our friends, and those who want to destroy them are the ones who chant "Death to America" every chance they get?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
The evidence for that is murky. While it certainly did move from New to Old world. European skeletal remains from well before first contact show signs of treponematosis which is the parent disease of syphilis.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:25 pm to RebRxV
Perhaps they chant Death to America is because we are funding their death?
I wish I was friends with the US government.
I wish I was friends with the US government.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
Blame the French and British. The US bought Louisiana.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:35 pm to BrownLeft Shoe
quote:
Actually, the Indians didn't give the Europeans any diseases.
Yet we got ethanol and high fructose corn syrup from the Indians. They might be having the last laugh
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:47 am to SammyTiger
quote:
So you know about all these massacres from the not history they didn’t write?
I infer it from my knowledge of human nature.
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