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No restrictions on AI for 10 years in the BBB

Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
1438 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:15 pm
Trump is trying to pass no restrictions on AI for 10 years in the BBB to try and compete with China for AI supremacy. This is a horrible idea just like the amnesty for Pharmaceutical companies making Covid vaccines. I understand wanting to out compete China, but our technology is advancing so fast that I don't believe that we can even predict what AI will be in ten years. What are your thoughts?
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
21837 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:16 pm to
You seriously have zero clue and zero idea about anything about AI and your post shows it
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:18 pm to
And yours does? Pot meet kettle.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62861 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:18 pm to
patriots.win was calling it the Big Brother Bill.
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Groundpounder
Strip the big brother BS out of the BBB and we’ll talk then

MissingTrump
Need to strip all the pro AI bullshite out of there as well. Not being able to question the government on AI bullshite is insane. This is safe and effective 2.0

Groundpounder
That’s what I was referring to. If they want to incorporate AI into data management systems to make agencies work more effectively, fine. But the intel goons want to use it for nefarious purposes. I think a lot of people forget that the police state raided a President’s HOUSE over politically motivated BS. If they’re willing to do that to a President, what’s to stop them from abusing their new “monitor everyone and everything” AI program?

wharfthrowaway
Call your representatives to get the AI section removed

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I'm too dumb to understand it all, but here is one critique.
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Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
6430 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165649 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

You seriously have zero clue and zero idea about anything about AI and your post shows it

10 years is still an incredibly long timeline for AI systems having 0 regulations
Posted by GrassyKnoll556
Member since Feb 2025
145 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:28 pm to
We, as a species, are making a huge mistake with AI. It becomes twice as smart every 6 months.

There will be a point of no return very soon. AI will bring down civilization before we can all nuke ourselves and AI may do it with those very same nukes.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8295 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:04 pm to
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ou seriously have zero clue and zero idea about anything about AI and your post shows it


Please explain how this is a good idea for us luddites....because on the face of it ..its sounds like a terrible idea. Almost ludicrous.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23378 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:22 pm to
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AI will be in ten years. What are your thoughts?


AI is still going up the hype cycle into the peak of inflated expectations. The upcoming next part with be the crash into the trough of disillusionment. Some people think we already hit peak, but I think that is coming still. There has been a pause in the visibility with the trade wars.

The below is from June of 2024 and what you are fearing is Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), that is still predicted 10+ years out and theoretical. AGI is not a forgone conclusion or achievable end goal. If true AGI happens though, hold onto you buttocks as life is going to change. Will it change for better or worse is unknown, but at that point man has become god. Interjecting religion into this, there is a great chance the anti-Christ will be born of man's creation.



There was once a great thread here to discuss such topics.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9041 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:32 pm to
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You seriously have zero clue and zero idea about anything about AI and your post shows it



I hope I get the same deal AI shysters get when it comes to stealing intellectual property. If it is no longer theft when you steal big enough amounts of it then, buddy, I'm not going to be paying for streaming services any longer and I'm going to need a home datacenter for my Plex server.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9078 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:41 pm to
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FLTech


Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9041 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

The below is from June of 2024 and what you are fearing is Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), that is still predicted 10+ years out and theoretical. AGI is not a forgone conclusion or achievable end goal. If true AGI happens though, hold onto you buttocks as life is going to change. Will it change for better or worse is unknown, but at that point man has become god. Interjecting religion into this, there is a great chance the anti-Christ will be born of man's creation.



I do not think transformer models are the path to AGI. Right now, I see LLMs as a good parlor trick that can give you a quick executive summarization of what would have taken much longer with manual searching. However, the trust level in the contents means you always need to verify what it is saying once you've gotten the broad strokes.

For example, in computer programming, I've found it useful for exposing some feature or concept I was grasping for but didn't have the correct magical term to unlock the documentation or wikipedia article that really tells me what I need to know. It is also very good at quickly knocking out rote bits and allowing me to focus on the more essential aspects of the solution. However, I always have to review what it generates thoroughly. However if it takes something that would have been hours of work before and turned it into a half hour of code review then I'm winning.

What I would not expect now or in the next 10 years is being able to treat an AI agent like a junior programmer. I think the level of human code review on that output would be too time consuming for me. LLM coding assistants can do some really amazing work but randomly just step on its own dick doing basic things. Having it do small bit side-by-side with your work is just going to be less time consuming than line by line reviews or writing pedantic testing suites.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83812 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Please explain how this is a good idea for us luddites....because on the face of it ..its sounds like a terrible idea. Almost ludicrous.



bro it's FLTech

He's has zero expertise on this or any other topic and it's been shown a million times over on this board
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17067 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:20 pm to
I think it should be regulated. Lets bring in a panel of chinese from the ccp and let them set the parameters...........

Its like any other invention, good and bad can occur, thats why you can put in laws if things go sideways. To have a bunch of 80 year old congressmen put up guardrails on an unknown road....will lead us to nowhere while china, india, south korea own us.

If we had just been able to stop the Manhattan Project we would not have nuclear weapons......right.....right.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
11018 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:24 pm to
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I would have voted NO if I had known this was in there.


So... MTG is using the "We have to pass it to find out what's in it" defense.

There's no excuse to pass ANY bill in the House and then be surprised at what you've gone and voted for. None at all.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
11018 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

You seriously have zero clue

Well... somebody seriously has zero clue...
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
5359 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:26 pm to
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10 years is still an incredibly long timeline for AI systems having 0 regulations


Since when can we start issuing worldwide regulations?
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
21837 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:01 pm to
It’s going to take several years to get the AI infrastructure built. This is why. We currently don’t have infrastructure to handle AI with power plants, data centers, etc.

So you are wanting them to put restrictions on AI before the infrastructure is even built? This is why they have asked for 10 years.

Surely you people didn’t think that the massive data centers, servers, power plants, etc magically get built at the snap of a finger did ya? Or did you?

I can’t tell these days what people actually know and what they pretend to know.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 4:24 pm
Posted by theballguy
tMoral compass of poliboard
Member since Oct 2011
19521 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

What are your thoughts?


Op is a frightened boomer.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88070 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
Well if racist Pedro is posting we know its bullshite
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