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re: NFL players can be fined for church attendance
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:39 pm to longwayfromLA
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:39 pm to longwayfromLA
quote:
I dunno.
You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble by leading and ending with this.
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:40 pm to DaleGribble
Sounds unconstitutional. Would love to see a player sue the NFL for losing a game check for this.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:43 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Wait, you think they're being arrested and charged with a crime for going to church?
We're not doing the First Amendment?
So, the First Amendment just isn't a thing any longer?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:43 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:You DO realize that the NFL is not a governmental entity, right?
We're not doing the First Amendment?
So, the First Amendment just isn't a thing any longer?
In any case, the Players' Union AGREED to these restrictions.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:43 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:
which means no large gatherings
Yet only specific large group gatherings are subject to a fine.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:45 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:You should put your "law degree" back in the Cracker Jacks box and return it. It is not worth the $1.79 you paid for it.
FFS - the NFL is 100% in the public space - public airways, public infrastructure - IN NO WAY can an employer with such access prohibit the free exercise of religion, legally.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:49 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:Ron White said it bestquote:Jesus Christ.
NFL is 100% in the public space
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:50 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
So, the First Amendment just isn't a thing any longer?
Employers are required to reasonably accommodate an employee's religion unless doing so would place more than minimal burden on the employer's business. Players can attend church services online, so restricting them attending a gathering with more than a certain number of people is a reasonable accommodation IMO. It would place undue burden on the league to allow players to expose themselves to a pandemic virus by gathering at church every week. The first amendment doesn't apply here, but federal employment laws do. I think the NFL is in compliance here personally.
I'd also love to see a player argue he has to go to church due to his christian faith but still manages to play football every Sunday.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:50 pm to xxTIMMYxx
quote:If "religion" is one of 435,456 activities affected by something, GODDAMMIT, it is intended to persecute religion!
Looks like it is a lot more than just church.
#persecutioncomplex
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:52 pm to Flats
quote:
What if they looked at statistics and determined that the gay lifestyle comes with inordinate health risks. Could they forbid that? If they paid them not to be gay you'd be cool with it?
Theoretically someone could make such a forbiddance. I couldn't imagine the hypothetical that would get you there, though. It would certainly take way more than just ambiguous terms like gay lifestyle and inordinate health risks. But it's possible. The present situation is easy because the harm is so clear, so connected to the business and the reasonable accommodation is so obvious.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:52 pm to Crimson Wraith
I’m sure participating in protests/riots are fine though. Pretty much in line with allowing convicted felon and crack heads’ names on the helmets but not Dallas cops murdered by BLM Members or any Bible verses....
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:53 pm to Flats
quote:If the Players, acting thru their Players Union reps AGREED to it?
What if they looked at statistics and determined that the gay lifestyle comes with inordinate health risks. Could they forbid that? If they paid them not to be gay you'd be cool with it?
frick yes they could.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:54 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
We're not doing the First Amendment? So, the First Amendment just isn't a thing any longer?
John Roberts?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:55 pm to Crimson Wraith
This pandemic has shown the true colors of these Marxist, godless heathens. They are lumping church services in with businesses as if you can treat them the same or that worship does not have fundamentally different elements than other recreation or socialization venues.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:55 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble by leading and ending with this.
As if you have any idea what went on as part of a high stakes negotiation you weren't party to. So tell what happened in there?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:56 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:
I’m sure participating in protests/riots are fine though.
During the season? I bet they're not. I don't see any NBA players taking part in protests now that they're in the bubble. Guys are getting fined and/or quarantined for doing anything outside the bubble.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:56 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
quote:
Sounds unconstitutional. Would love to see a player sue the NFL for losing a game check for this.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:56 pm to Ace Midnight
They are free to not work for the NFL, and then freely attend church.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:56 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:yet you cant hire/fore someone based on the race or color or religion?
We're not doing the First Amendment?
Are they being persecuted by the Government?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:58 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
If the Players, acting thru their Players Union reps AGREED to it?
frick yes they could.
You actually believe that? You think our current federal judiciary would allow that?
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