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re: Newt: an absolutely rigged election in 2020

Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:29 pm to
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there's no investigation
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Link?

Let's be clear.
The only way one can say definitively the DOJ is not investigating a topic is if the DOJ says it is not investigating a topic/entity/individual.

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Not in this administration
Posted with a LOL emoji no less?

Either you're asserting this DOJ announces all investigations it undertakes, or you are running your mouth. Which is it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452727 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Either you're asserting this DOJ announces all investigations

Pivot. Not the standard to which I replied, which was

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Sans that, as the DOJ does not routinely reveal investigations until charges are prepared


I never said "all"

Is it routine? Appears so, but that's not "all"
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:32 pm
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
1992 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:33 pm to
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And there's tons of evidence for widespread, deliberate voter fraud. You choose to pretend that it doesn't exist for whatever reason.

seems like after 4 years of non-stop crying about it from trump, who now has the means to all the information associated with this great injustice, would be guns blazing to prove himself right day one
instead he's renaming the gulf of mexico and pardoning the chrisleys
wonder why he's not so gung ho for justice anymore?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:35 pm to
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Me: Courts ruled one way on the law
Again, the FACT that LAWS were BROKEN and the system rubber stamped the result makes it fraud.

Hear no evil; See no evil; Speak no evil; does not equate to "justice is blind." It equates to three monkeys ignoring the law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:37 pm to
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the FACT that LAWS were BROKEN and the system rubber stamped the result makes it fraud.


I already covered that response.

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You have not defended your position in any way other than repeating your conclusory statements and ignoring arguments supporting it other than repeating those conclusions (see above)


You're just repeating unsubstantiated conclusions, over and over.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131682 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:37 pm to
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I never said "all"
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Let's be clear.
The only way one can say definitively the DOJ is not investigating a topic is if the DOJ says it is not investigating a topic/entity/individual.
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Not in this administration
Res ipsa loquitur.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25482 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:41 pm to
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Why was none of this presented in the dozens of court cases?


I have no idea what was presented in what court cases, and it may very well be that the evidence, much like OJ, wasn't enough to sway a jury. Maybe not even enough to bring a case, then there's the whole lack of remedy issue to deal with.

I'm not a jury, I'm not making a legal determination. I can look at video of people taking selfies as they drop off multiple ballots while wearing gloves and reach a reasonable conclusion about what they were doing, especially when considered in the context of the left's push for loose voting conditions.

If you can't connect those dots, fine, but that doesn't mean there's no evidence. You either think it means something or you don't, just like those OJ jurors.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452727 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:42 pm to
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Res ipsa loquitur.

No.

You're also mixing up affirmative and negative. Your statement was made in the negative (about who is NOT being investigated). I showed it was incorrect (by showing plenty of examples of people being publicly investigated). My response did not require listing every investigation by the DOJ, accordingly.

Now, had you made an affirmative statement, my negative statement likely would require that totality. But that's not what happened.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:42 pm to
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You're just repeating unsubstantiated conclusions, over and over.
No.

I am repeating conclusions substantiated tens of dozens of times on this board alone.

E.g., According to Wisconsin LAW, was the selective allowance of elective absentee ballots in Dane and Milwaukee Counties LEGAL?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:45 pm to
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Your statement was made in the negative
No.

PF's statement, the statement I called to question, was made in the negative.
That was the entire basis of calling it out.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47638 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:45 pm to
I'm from New Orleans. The Democrats have been stealing votes in New Orleans. My whole life. I'm 63. I can't prove it. How could I? but I know it's true the same way I know other things from circumstantial evidence. I know that the Biden family was a crime family. This is gonna catch a lot of shite on here, but I know the Trump family is a crime family too. It is not partisanship that's making me see the vote stealing, it is the vote stealing.

I have a friend from Pennsylvania. I asked him how the 2020 election was going to go in Pennsylvania. He told me Trump is gonna win it, but then they were gonna keep counting in Philadelphia until Biden wins it. He is my age. They've been doing it in Philadelphia his whole life.

I guess you could just say prove it, and I can't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452727 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I have no idea what was presented in what court cases, and it may very well be that the evidence, much like OJ, wasn't enough to sway a jury.

There has been NO evidence presented.

Not in the various defamation lawsuits. Not in the various state-based suits on behalf of Trump. Not in the various licensure litigations. Not in the various criminal cases (yet).

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I can look at video of people taking selfies as they drop off multiple ballots

Not necessarily illegal/fraud. In California, for instance, that's been legal prior to 2020.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25482 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:46 pm to
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wonder why he's not so gung ho for justice anymore?


What would that look like?

The second those ballots were separated from the envelopes the fraud was done; it was over. There was no remedy, nothing the courts could do, and I said exactly that about 3 days after the election.

You may be confusing "there's enough evidence for me to believe XYZ" with "I can prove XYZ in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt." I'm not claiming the latter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452727 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:48 pm to
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According to Wisconsin LAW, was the selective allowance of elective absentee ballots in Dane and Milwaukee Counties LEGAL?


Here is the answer to your questions

Summary:

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Among those challenged ballots were ballots cast by voters who claimed indefinitely confined status since March 25, 2020. The Supreme Court concluded that the Petitioners were not entitled to the requested relief, holding (1) the challenge to the indefinitely confined voter ballots was meritless on its face; and (2) the other three categories of challenged ballots failed under the doctrine of laches.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120758 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:50 pm to
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They've been doing it in Philadelphia his whole life.


They’ve been doing it in Milwaukee our whole lives.

They’ve been doing it in Detroit our whole lives.

Atlanta is new. Phoenix is new.

They used to do it in St. Louis until the Republicans told the Saint Louisans that they wouldn’t get any state money if they kept playing with Presidential and Senate elections.
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:50 pm to
I appreciate your insight. I try to stay grounded in what I or others can prove. Anything outside of that would just cause me unnecessary stress.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19837 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:51 pm to
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seems like after 4 years of non-stop crying about it from trump, who now has the means to all the information associated with this great injustice, would be guns blazing to prove himself right day one
instead he's renaming the gulf of mexico and pardoning the chrisleys
wonder why he's not so gung ho for justice anymore?


See this is a fair point. It really is. "Crime of the century" we were told. "High treason", we were told. "Coup against an American President", we were told.

These are extraordinary claims. In fact they're beyond extraordinary. Yet nothing, nada, zip.

President Trump has full control over the DOJ. His subordinates were hand chosen by him, and there’s nothing. Not so much as a hint of an investigation.

Now there’s some folks around these parts who need to believe it's all being "secretly" investigated, but they really know better.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150808 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:53 pm to
I think people get too emotionally hyped and it’s understandable.

When you see all these things and the opponent lives by any means necessary this is the result.

If nothing is done investigating all this then we have our answer in my opinion.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:54 pm
Posted by FrontlineTiger
Member since Aug 2024
301 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:53 pm to
Insufferable and shameless. They could give a frick what you know.
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
608 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:53 pm to
Now we know the truth!

Mike Lindell Says ‘Satan’ Rigged Voting Machines in 2020

Mikey is not speaking figuratively here either, he means it . . . literally.

“And when you say who’s behind it all? Satan, there’s one,”

You guys are screwed. No way you can beat old Scratch at this game.
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