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Newsom more popular than 2018 even though 25% of petition signers were Dems?

Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57262 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:52 am to
We all know what happened

It’s why we are screwed
Posted by andyv95
Nashville
Member since Sep 2021
1492 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:54 am to
Yep!!! Nothing from the idiots in the Republican Party
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14035 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:54 am to
Newsome probably would have kept his seat without fraud, but the Democrats cheated their asses off anyway. They don’t leave anything to chance
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:56 am to
Why wouldn't Democrats cheat to ensure that they get and retain power if they know they will get away with it?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62741 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:56 am to
I think it's more of a case of the type of vote this was.
If it was a straight up gubernatorial election, he may have lost.
But, since it was a "recall" election, the CNNs probably made out like the world would end of the current governor would be removed from office.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19298 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:00 pm to
What's most interesting is that the NYT says that almost 8.7 million mail-in ballots were received prior to the close of polls last night. Which makes sense since there are 22 million registered voters in CA and they were all mailed a ballot. However the current vote total is only 9.1 million. You're telling me that only 400k voted in-person? There is no way.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94918 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:02 pm to
More than 400K probably showed up in person to vote and were told to fill out a “provisional ballot” because they had already voted.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19298 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:04 pm to
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More than 400K probably showed up in person to vote and were told to fill out a “provisional ballot” because they had already voted.

I'm not even alleging fraud. It's one of the bluest states in the country so recalling Newsom was always an uphill climb but the current vote totals don't make any sense.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94918 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:06 pm to
I’m just repeating what was already said yesterday… people showed up at the polls and were told they had already voted.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1291 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:15 pm to
is really is very simple. There are a decent amount of Democrats who don't like him and want him gone.

But if the choice is him vs. Elder(which it was), the choice of those Dems was clearly to keep him.

I think those Dems that signed the petition were hoping for another Dem to emerge as the frontrunner.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7158 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:17 pm to
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the current vote totals don't make any sense.


What caught my eye last night as I was posting the votes totals was that the No votes were far outpacing the amount of votes all of the dem candidates combined were receiving. I mean, if you’re against the recall, fine. But wouldn’t you as an insurance policy also fill in a bubble for a dem candidate just in case the recall succeeded? It was really odd and it stood out immediately. Very similar to how joe got all of these additional votes but republicans were winning down ticket.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1291 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:20 pm to
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What caught my eye last night as I was posting the votes totals was that the No votes were far outpacing the amount of votes all of the dem candidates combined were receiving. I mean, if you’re against the recall, fine. But wouldn’t you as an insurance policy also fill in a bubble for a dem candidate just in case the recall succeeded? It was really odd and it stood out immediately. Very similar to how joe got all of these additional votes but republicans were winning down ticket.


The Democrat strategy and what they were strongly pushing for the entire time was vote no to recall and don't answer the second question at all.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:22 pm to
I was confounded earlier about this rise as well. It makes absolutely no sense

I’m not giving the benefit of doubt anymore
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28364 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:23 pm to
Republicans didn't show up and vote.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7158 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:31 pm to
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The Democrat strategy and what they were strongly pushing for the entire time was vote no to recall and don't answer the second question at all


They pushed no for sure. But I don’t recall hearing them about leaving it at that.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21185 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:33 pm to
Not very many of those in California. This recall was a waste of time.
Posted by AlterEgo89
Member since Sep 2021
135 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:13 pm to
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They pushed no for sure. But I don’t recall hearing them about leaving it at that.


It definitely was the strategy.

They told people to vote 'No' on recall and don't answer the 2nd question.

It's why they didn't have a proper candidate for the 2nd question. They learned from last time that if you gave people an option on the 2nd question, they would vote 'Yes' on the 1st question. By not providing a proper alternative, it means that people stick with 'No' on the recall.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19419 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:18 pm to
Calif. is starting to look more like a Soviet election.
Posted by bungalow233b
Member since Oct 2017
44 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

What caught my eye last night as I was posting the votes totals was that the No votes were far outpacing the amount of votes all of the dem candidates combined were receiving. I mean, if you’re against the recall, fine. But wouldn’t you as an insurance policy also fill in a bubble for a dem candidate just in case the recall succeeded? It was really odd and it stood out immediately. Very similar to how joe got all of these additional votes but republicans were winning down ticket.


You only fill out the replacement candidate if you fill in yes on recalling.
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