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re: Newly Released Peter Strzok Doc

Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Obama ordering this may insulate the people under him from criminal liability.


That sounds like a Nuremberg defense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:29 pm to
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was (1) made at the orders of Obama

Very likely true

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(2) a proven complete fabrication

This has not occurred.

Assessment reports over the analysis involved criticized the process involved and said it didn't meet applicable standards of judgment/statecraft.

That subjective evaluation is not a factual assertion, let alone one claiming it was a "complete fabrication"

That's 0/3, Darth. Stop making shite up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Drop an is or two in there Mr Clinton.

Yeah I edited.

What's = That's. My b
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:31 pm to
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That sounds like a Nuremberg defense.

This comparison only really applies if it's illegal.

The larger point was Obama ordering it makes that much less likely to be illegal.

However, it would be cool if these cases does establish the existence (or non-existence) of qualified or quasi-immunity for higher-level executive agents. If this is litigated, I'm sure that will go to the Supreme Court at some point.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61633 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:32 pm to
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It was a question...


Backtracking already.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Backtracking already.

Naw. It was a question, for the discussion.

If this was a lawful order by the President, how can following it be illegal?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61633 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Naw. It was a question, for the discussion.


Crawfish

I know that you know it was a dumb stance.

That you won’t admit it and instead want to pretend you were just asking a question doesn’t change that.

This happens a lot. You backed yourself into a logical corner.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:41 pm to
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I know that you know it was a dumb stance.


How?

If this was a lawful order by the President, how can following it be illegal?

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You backed yourself into a logical corner.

Implying that following a lawful order being legal isn't "backing myself down" into any corner"
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18913 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:49 pm to
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I said that the underlying analyses at issue are subjective and based on opinions, and proving otherwise at a criminal trial will require a mind reader or smoking gun.


I would argue that when you have meeting notes and correspondence that state clearly all parties knew this was fabricated by HRC but then presented it as fact in order to meet a specified goal - malicious intent isn’t an opinion.

What other intent could you infer from their actions given what we know?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87144 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:50 pm to
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You framed your question bad.


Badly.

He framed his question badly. Or poorly would work, as well.

I’d expect somebody gifted to have better command of the English language.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3369 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:56 pm to
Don’t be too hard on slo joes bro. All his friends have left town suddenly
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18913 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:05 pm to
I bet you could do a Few Good Men number on Obama and Brennan and they’d gladfully admit they staged all of this to protect the country from Trump.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87144 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:09 pm to
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I bet you could do a Few Good Men number on Obama and Brennan and they’d gladfully admit they staged all of this to protect the country from Trump.


Brennan would be the more likely of the two. He strikes me as a powder keg with a lit fuse. Obama is a little bit slicker than that.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13582 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:17 pm to
The crazy just flows from that video. Wonder what they all think of black Jesus now being outed as the one that actually committed the treason.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71775 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:02 pm to
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That's 0/3, Darth. Stop making shite up.


That’s rush coming from you. You’ve the biggest lying sack of shite on this site. Every post you e made in this thread has been noting but lie after lie. You’ve yet to say even one thing that is true.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19133 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:06 pm to
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following those non-illegal orders?


Of course they are illegal orders, just because Obama MIGHT have immunity doesn’t make them legal.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41605 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:10 pm to


Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23841 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:11 pm to
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So... "just following orders", you say?



Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41706 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:15 pm to
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The larger point was Obama ordering it makes that much less likely to be illegal.


The other night, you said that the drone pilots who killed the US citizen (that Obama ordered to be blasted to the afterlife) were responsible for murder…not him.

Which is it?
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
410 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:17 pm to
"but it rings true, doesn't it?"

--John Brennan

Throw away the key
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