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re: Nearly 1/2 of female soldiers still failing new Army fitness test, while males pass easily

Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18949 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:22 pm to
21 minutes?!?!? Hell, I did the 1.5 in 12.36 (had to beat 12.51) to get my cop job and I've never been much of a cardio guy.
Posted by lpb tiger
Member since Mar 2021
389 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:23 pm to
Every member of our military personnel should be appreciated. When in the future confrontations will we need great athletes to rush the front lines? This is 2021. We need healthy minds willing to confront problems with the worlds issues. Not sprinters.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29113 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:28 pm to
2 miles in 21 minutes is not that hard. Our coach in high school made us run the mile in 6 min.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:30 pm to
Are the physical requirements of combat going to accommodate our lowered standards of fitness and ability? How nice.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10312 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:38 pm to
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Women don't belong in the military.

They're too expensive, too inefficient and bring far more trouble than they're worth.

Allowing women to serve in mainstream military roles defies the norms of world history and defies human nature.


I talked about the draft to a friend of mine who was a marine, and he basically said we already have too many in the military who don't do anything and make everything inefficient, why bring in more? He also said on the whole, women are burdensome and a distraction in anything close to a combat setting.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Every member of our military personnel should be appreciated.


Not really. If you ever served, you know that there are plenty who are simply burdens to their units. Like people who can't run 2-miles in 21 minutes = and not simply because they can't run fast. The chances are that those people are in that condition because they have poor attitudes, are lazy and without any pride in themselves and by extension their units.

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When in the future confrontations will we need great athletes to rush the front lines? This is 2021


There is pretty big gulf between "great athletes" and those who can't run 2 miles on 21 minutes.

What makes you think we are doing the service members any favors by lowering the physical fitness requirements to the point there are for all practical purposes no requirements?


Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:59 pm to
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2 Miles in 21 minutes is "difficult" haha. If you can't do that then jeez


I think I can pretty much walk two miles in 21 minutes...
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:03 pm to
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The run must be completed within 21 minutes.


1 mile in 10.5 minutes. A very fast walk would be enough.

I spent Saturday in the ER with hernias and pancreatitis coupled with being unable to hold down food for 3 days and could probably complete 2 miles in 21 minutes today!

ETA: and I'm about 6 weeks shy of 57 too
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:05 pm
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8072 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:05 pm to
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seriously, had to look up what a Hand Release Pushup is.



It's a pretty common option for scaling and making sure everybody is doing the full range of motion for a pushup, IE all the way down and all the way up.

Lots of people do halfsies where they don't go all the way down or up.

Posted by lpb tiger
Member since Mar 2021
389 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:16 pm to
You guys are looking for a problem that doesn't exist.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83207 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:48 pm to
Standards are standards. It effects promotion to retention.
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
3713 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:52 pm to
Right now Russian and Chinese Military leaders have tears in their eyes from laughing so hard.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:53 pm to
Superior race and gender.


Deal with it.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:58 pm to
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The most difficult event for both male and female soldiers is the two-mile run, with 5% and 22% failing, respectively. The run must be completed within 21 minutes.


This is not hard
Posted by Saucypants
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2019
609 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:09 pm to
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The run must be completed within 21 minutes.


Holy shite, that’s jogging (with a soft j) 2 miles.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:47 pm to
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It effects promotion to retention.


In the case of CSL you are now basically disqualified for promotion beyond O5 if you are on a no running permanent profile.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62480 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:00 pm to
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Nearly 1/2 of female soldiers still failing new Army fitness test, while males pass easily
Why don’t those female soldiers “transition” into males, change their pronouns, pass the test, then “transition” back to female?

Oh wait… that’s right. They’ll still be women so it won’t really work will it?
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45083 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:10 pm to
The old PT test was garbage. ACFT is fine, it's just so many soldiers are completely out of shape...hence the failing
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9374 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:13 pm to
Can we talk about how the passing rate for a 2 mile run is 21 minutes?

That’s an absolute cakewalk.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71821 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:26 pm to
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Nearly 1/2 of female soldiers still failing new Army fitness test, while males pass easily


This is crazy. It’s almost as if there may be *dare I say?* physical differences between males and females. Like maybe males have a different bone and muscle structure that makes them naturally stronger than females? It’s a mystery I guess. If only we had some form of science to answer mysteries such as this. Maybe we could call this mystical science “human biology”. If such science existed, it could give us answers one would hope.
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