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Nearly 1/2 of female soldiers still failing new Army fitness test, while males pass easily

Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:42 pm
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"Female soldiers continue to lag male soldier scores in all events," according to a United States Army Forces Command briefing obtained by Military.com.

Gotta say, I’m actually surprised the passing rate (i.e., one-half) is that high. Even the fittest female is a different sort of “fit” than what’s often required for the physical nature of the military.

Military.com

Here’s the part of the article that most rubs me the wrong way:
quote:

The data again raises questions about whether the Army's attempt to create a fitter force is creating more barriers to success for women.

The same “barriers” are in place for men who can’t pass.
When it comes to our nation’s defense, why would anyone in their right mind make this an issue of equity?

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The most difficult event for both male and female soldiers is the two-mile run, with 5% and 22% failing, respectively. The run must be completed within 21 minutes.



The overall results:
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Failure rate by event for men:

Deadlift: Less than 1%

Standing Power Throw: Less than 1%

Hand-Release Push-Ups: Less than 1%

Sprint-Drag-Carry: Less than 1%

Leg Tucks: 2%

Two-Mile Run: 5%


Failure rate by event for women:

Deadlift: 6%

Standing Power Throw: 15%

Hand-Release Push-Ups: 2%

Sprint-Drag-Carry: 12%

Leg Tucks: 22%

Two-Mile Run: 22%

The pass rate for women is up 12% from last year, yet enlisted women continue to struggle the most, with a 53% fail rate. Female officers have only a 23% fail rate, but that's still significantly higher than the fail rate for men, enlisted or officer.


Average Scores (360 needed to pass, 600 is the max):
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Women

Enlisted: Pass Rate 47%, Average Score 343

Noncommissioned Officers: Pass Rate 65%, Average Score 363

Officers: Pass Rate 77%, Average Score 389

Warrant Officers: Pass Rate 71%, Average Score 370


Men

Enlisted: Pass Rate 90%, Average Score 461

Noncommissioned Officers: Pass Rate 95%, Average Score 478

Officers: Pass Rate 97%, Average Score 500

Warrant Officers: Pass Rate 96%, Average Score 454
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27145 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:43 pm to
Hey, they asked for equal treatment... let them have equal tests...
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:43 pm to
Absolutely.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:44 pm to
Women don't belong in the military.

They're too expensive, too inefficient and bring far more trouble than they're worth.

Allowing women to serve in mainstream military roles defies the norms of world history and defies human nature.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:47 pm to
They will lower the standards again.
Posted by Atiger88
Alabama
Member since Apr 2021
62 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:47 pm to
Women dont belong in the military,they should be raising children.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80228 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:48 pm to
WTF!

How are more people failing the 2 mile run?

The threshold for passing the run is far lower than it used to be.

In the APFT, a 21 year old man would have to run a 15:54 to pass. Now he has to run 21:00.

At my age (42) the threshold for passing used to be 18:18.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6847 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:49 pm to
seriously, had to look up what a Hand Release Pushup is.

Now can someone explain to me how you measure muscle endurance by taking a brief rest between exertions vs. continual exertion? Seems counter-intuitive.

This fancy PT test seems awfully complicated compared to what was the traditional 3 event event and done.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:50 pm to
2 Miles in 21 minutes is "difficult" haha. If you can't do that then jeez
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45280 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:50 pm to
Clearly we need to lower these fitness barriers some more to eliminate this blatant sexism and discrimination.

The most important aspects of a military are its inclusiveness and making soldiers feel safe and special.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:50 pm to
Lol reminds of basic all over again, I'm AF but it was a little funny that all the guys got a nice break after the run waiting on the girls to finish. We only do 1.5 miles but shite even as fat as I am now I could speed walk 2 miles in under 21 minutes
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80228 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:52 pm to
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Now can someone explain to me how you measure muscle endurance by taking a brief rest between exertions vs. continual exertion? Seems counter-intuitive.


The hand release pushup is harder than you think. You start in the down position and must keep your hands and feet at shoulder width. Once you hit the down position, you have to fully extend both arms and retract back in before going up.

Before you could just burn through as many push-ups as possible before resting, then struggle through the remainder. Here, you have to physically stop after each iteration.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65120 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:52 pm to
For the Air Force, I laugh about how the physical fitness requirement for women aged 18-29 regarding the run time is the same minimum passing as the minimum passing time for the oldest male group (60 and above).
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123940 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Nearly 1/2 of female soldiers still failing new Army fitness test
quote:

Hey, they asked for equal treatment... let them have equal tests...

Give 'em a PARTICIPATION TROPHY that says "Winner of a General Discharge"
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13567 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:53 pm to
The Army better be careful, if they keep getting all this data supporting the old idea that women aren’t as strong as men, they might be canceled.

Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5991 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Female soldiers continue to lag male soldier scores in all events


Yeah.. but what about the pregnant women and trannies? Surely they are blowing the tests out of the water to earn such praise from upper brass?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17733 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:53 pm to
I am convinced that this may be an underlying reason this insane “transgender” agenda has been so heavily promoted by the Pentagram. Allowing men who “identify” as women to perform as such offers a sufficiently woke and politically correct way for the DoD to insure that women are not being disproportionately washed out by more rigorous physical fitness standards.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13350 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:53 pm to
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The run must be completed within 21 minutes.


1 mile in 10.5 minutes. A very fast walk would be enough.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:54 pm to
Why would you want to be in the military if you cant run a 10 min mile consistently?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71115 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

How are more people failing the 2 mile run?

The threshold for passing the run is far lower than it used to be.


Nation of lardasses.

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