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re: Nayib Bukele (El Salvador)
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:23 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:23 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Sometimes you need a strongman when society is so far out of whack. The state was struggling to provide basic peace and social order before he came around.
His benevolence will be tested by whether he ever enacts democratic reforms and eventually cedes power.
His benevolence will be tested by whether he ever enacts democratic reforms and eventually cedes power.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 8:24 pm
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:48 pm to Hodag
El Salvador’s constitution prohibits reelection. But a fter his party was victorious in 2021 legislative elections, the newly elected congress purged the country’s constitutional court, replacing judges with loyalists. They later ruled that Bukele could run for a second term. Critics say he has chipped away at the country’s system of checks and balances.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:51 pm to LoneStar23
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Marco seems like a great choice for his role
He’s a good steady “good cop” to Trump’s wildcard badcop methods. Great 1-2 punch
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:56 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Helps that Marco can speak Spanish...makes it more warm and relaxed in their conversations. But I figure El Salvador is going to get a nice payday for taking in the felons.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:07 pm to Nevada_Tiger
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make it safe for the people has been nothing short of impressive. But he is also a dictator.
i have a sibling of a good friend that is a missionary to Haiti. the sibling is wildly progressive and bleeding heart but said the only way to fix the country is to have a truly benevolent dictator.
they exist, but it's hard not to cross the line.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:09 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Woo boy. PT is now praising dictatorships and highlighting the freedom. This is some Orwellian type shite.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:12 pm to boosiebadazz
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Sometimes you need a strongman when society is so far out of whack. The state was struggling to provide basic peace and social order before he came around.
Yeah maybe if you’re some third world nation in Central America. You don’t give up your form of government when you’re actually the biggest power in history. People act like the US is some backwater dump. We’re not perfect but go travel other places around the world and realize how good it feels touching back down on American soil.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:13 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
Can you imagine being a survivor of Huey Long knowing everything you inherited or inherit was "stolen" from the State of Louisiana and its citizens?
Frig' The Longs!!
Huey Long: The Definition of CORRUPTION!!
Frig' The Longs!!
Huey Long: The Definition of CORRUPTION!!
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:14 pm to trader_tiger83
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Yeah maybe if you’re some third world nation in Central America. You don’t give up your form of government when you’re actually the biggest power in history. People act like the US is some backwater dump. We’re not perfect but go travel other places around the world and realize how good it feels touching back down on American soil.
Yeah, bro, El Salvador is a backwards third world dump. Even the name is fricking stupid. I hope he despots his dick off.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:15 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Benevolent dictator can be a good thing
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:16 pm to Nevada_Tiger
I’ve heard some historians say a monarchy with a strong leader and benevolent king can be a good form of government. This was especially true in earlier times.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:17 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Benevolent dictator can be a good thing
Yeah maybe. I’ll stick with the US Constitution.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:27 pm to Bamafig
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The “benevolent dictator” usually develops paranoia and just becomes the Dictator.
Bukele accomplished the drop in crime by basically just rounding up everyone and throwing them in prison indefinitely. At least that is how I understand it. That's all well and good if there are no innocent people ending up in the gulag but the longer it goes on the more false positives are undoubtedly ending up in their penal system. Got to imagine that will cause some friction eventually.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:31 pm to trader_tiger83
Oh, no doubt, so will I. In rare circumstances, it could work out. It certainly can work to the point our country can work with El Salvador.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:33 pm to Nevada_Tiger
SIAP
He is also willing to house criminals including ours for money
He is also willing to house criminals including ours for money
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We have offered the United States of America the opportunity to outsource part of its prison system.
We are willing to take in only convicted criminals (including convicted U.S. citizens) into our mega-prison (CECOT) in exchange for a fee.
The fee would be relatively low for the U.S. but significant for us, making our entire prison system sustainable.
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I always get depressed, that is why I don't go back to the U.S. often. I admit it takes a special breed, but I love the Wild West shite.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:46 pm to 1999
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DJT is making central and South America a central focus.
Monroe Doctrine 2.0. I honestly hope that we work to build up countries in the Americas, instead of installing dictators and creating vassal states. That approach will help stem the tide of migrants and build an economic bloc that could be unmatched.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 7:17 am to trader_tiger83
quote:quote:Yeah maybe. I’ll stick with the US Constitution
Benevolent dictator can be a good thing
Well, no crap Sherlock. You people are incapable of having/understanding mature conversations. This term is going to be a whirlwind for you.
No one said it would work here, or wanted here. People were discussing how it works for other countries. A happy medium. If you lefties would have understood this then we wouldn't have the issues in the middle east like we have. Starting with Carter meddling with the Shah in Iran to Obamas Arab spring.
No one is saying our people can/will handle monarchy's or the benevolent dictator form, but people in many other nations can benefit from it. Lots of people from Indian descent, and Afro-decent in these Latin American nations. By nature they may require a different form of leadership. Let's help them figure it out without expect it to mirror ours exactly. That has failed, as it's not natural to their people, like ours.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 7:19 am to Nevada_Tiger
Pinochet of Chile was considered a dictator as well, but I have a historical soft spot for the guy.
Really rooted out a lot of commies during his tenure.
Really rooted out a lot of commies during his tenure.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 7:23 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Benevolent dictator can be a good thing
Well, it's not the worst thing. But even if he stays benevolent what about the succession?
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