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NATO & WH react to MAGA saying if you don’t pay your 2% you are on your own

Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10267 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:42 pm
Once again the Orange man says something that peels back the curtain and forces a response.

Low and behold- he is right again







Daily mail



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The White House immediately issued a scathing retort, labelling his comments as 'appalling and unhinged' and argued they 'promoted dangerous chaos'. And a furious NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg retorted: 'Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the US, and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk.'

But despite the classically brash and inflammatory nature of his comments, the platinum-blond firebrand might have a point.

Although NATO has some common funds, to which all members contribute, the vast bulk of its strength comes from members' own national defense spending.

Back in 2014, alliance members committed to spending at least 2% of their GDP every year on defense - and most of them fell well short of that goal last year despite making the commitment when Russia first annexed Crimea from Ukraine.


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France (1.9 %)
Montenegro (1.87 %)
North Macedonia (1.87 %)
Bulgaria (1.84 %)
Croatia (1.79 %)
Albania (1.76 %)
Netherlands (1.7 %)
Norway (1.67 %)
Denmark (1.65 %)
Germany (1.57 %)
Czech Republic (1.5 %)
Portugal (1.48 %)
Italy (1.46 %)
Canada (1.38 %)
Slovenia (1.35 %)
Turkey (1.31 %)
Spain (1.26 %)
Belgium (1.26 %)
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62444 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:46 pm to
Trump has been killing it lately, Deportation talks, Drill baby Drill, pushing NATO to give a shite about their own Security, and no more Foreign aid( only loans)… that will get some feet to the polls….
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7728 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:46 pm to
Most of these countries couldn’t put 10,000 combat troops in the field.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:47 pm to
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Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the US, and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk.'




We pay all the money, and provide all the resources and yet we live on the other side of the planet

Sadly for you, our dumbass politicians created a pissed off Russia by pushing their buttons over NATO expansion.


trump speaks common sense

We're out of money

Go screw yourselves if you can't understand we the American people not an endless credit card

sorry, not sorry
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 4:52 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9179 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:47 pm to
Most of those European countries probably spend more on their housing and feeding all the migrants they accepted(which are now attempting to destabilize their country)than they spend on NATO.
Why wouldn't they? They know our fricking tax dollars will make up the difference.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64358 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:48 pm to
Go Poland. I hope they acquire the biggest armed forces in Europe.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79168 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:51 pm to
Pay your bills f tards and you won’t get blasted
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3394 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:58 pm to
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Once again the Orange man says something that peels back the curtain and forces a response.


Imagine that
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:02 pm to
Of all places damn Greece is pulling their weight and more. Did not expect that.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26349 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:08 pm to
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Most of these countries couldn’t put 10,000 combat troops in the field.

Outside of France and Poland, I don’t know that any of the NATO countries could anymore—at least not with standing forces/without wartime conscription. The British Army and Bundeswehr are national embarrassments rivaled only by that of their respective national air forces. I don’t even think Germany can field a single tank division
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
1932 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:10 pm to
Trump was pushing this when he was in office, right around the same time he was pushing CHYYNA to rework the trade deal to make it fair and balanced.

I seen these numbers back then and he was also pulling out of the Paris climate accord/deal.

AND GET THIS, all those deals were being reworked AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE HIT WITH A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON aka COVID!

To all you maroons that can’t see what they are doing to the USA, you need to go enlist in the endless wars.

The USA, thru the Federal Reserve has been the Global Piggy Bank until we cannot afford it anymore & then we are all bankrupted while they run away with the coffers.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68313 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:14 pm to
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Trump was pushing this when he was in office, right around the same time he was pushing CHYYNA to rework the trade deal to make it fair and balanced.



...and using the Paris accord for toilet paper
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1220 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:23 pm to
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Of all places damn Greece is pulling their weight and more. Did not expect that.


Yep. And while France is at 1.9%, back when Trump first called out European countries they were a good bit lower than that. He had to shame them into incrementally increasing expenditures.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67098 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Of all places damn Greece is pulling their weight and more. Did not expect that.


Probably because they’re constantly on the verge of war breaking out with Turkey over Cypress or some random islands.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Go Poland. I hope they acquire the biggest armed forces in Europe.

Poland has seen quite a few armies march through that stretch of territory over the years. Not surprising they spend for defense.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29096 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:51 pm to
Just look at all those freeloaders. Makes me sick.
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
1305 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Of all places damn Greece is pulling their weight and more. Did not expect that.


Turkey sitting there ain’t helping. They’ve already taken the top half of Cypress.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7007 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:06 pm to
Pollacks pulling their weight. They NEED NATO, we don't
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the US,

Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6512 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:41 pm to
NATO should have been disbanded in 1992.
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