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re: Nation’s poorest states have Republican legislatures; richest have Democrat

Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63067 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

the metric you are citing here is myopic and skewed as a result of the lack of cost of living adjustments


Absolutely true. Gross income is the worst possible metric they could use.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41683 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:49 pm to
A lot of southern Republicans may be socially conservative but they still lean left economically. Louisiana is a good example of this. We're more purple than most people give us credit for.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Why do you guys pretend states like LA and MS have these booming economies like the Northeast.


Don’t confuse wealth and economic growth. When you look at the top ten fastest growing state economies in the country over the last three years, there are four red states:

Idaho
Texas
Georgia
Utah

four blue states:

Oregon
Washington
California
Massachusetts

and two purples states:

Colorado
Florida

It’s also not accurate to attribute economic growth with a snapshot of political legislative control. Louisiana is a perfect example of this.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Here's an example.

I live in Mandeville. The median income is around $50k.

Tallulah, a city of comparable size, has a median income of about $17k.

Wanna guess which one votes R and which one votes D?

It's not the Republicans' fault that areas controlled by democrats are poor.


So how do you square that example on a state level comparison?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Someone making 50k in AL is richer than someone making 100k in Massachusetts. Man I wish NPCs were capable of critical thinking.


Not gonna happen.



Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, the salary difference isnt always written off to housing prices.

Perhaps Employers just want to justify paying their employees lower than the market value, and just use COL as a scapegoat.

I've meet a couple of people who make 2 to 3 times more for the same job moving to from one Red State to another.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:54 pm to
That's because Republicans reward themselves at the top and starve out everyone else. No surprise
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85540 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:55 pm to
Awesome. So if we would just have a Democratic legislature we'd be rich too . I have always suspected that !
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:56 pm to
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Awesome. So if we would just have a Democratic legislature we'd be rich too . I have always suspected that !


I know you are being a smart-arse but it certainly is indicative of cultures where you give people the tools to succeed vs rewarding your good old boy Network
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:58 pm to
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That's because Republicans reward themselves at the top and starve out everyone else. No surprise


Top ten largest state income gaps:

1) New York
2) Connecticut
3) Louisiana
4) California
5) Florida
6) Massachusetts
7) Georgia
8) Texas
9) Mississippi
10) Illinois

5 Blues, 4 Reds, and a Purple

Your invalid talking points have no place here.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57332 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Now, let's look at states with the top ten largest debt - state and local governments combined: New York is #1 - Democrats. Wyoming is last - Republicans.

So the states with the most resources (wealthy residents) also have the highest debt? Well done dems.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57332 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

That's because Republicans reward themselves at the top and starve out everyone else. No surprise
nothing in the OP supports his conclusion. Just the opposite, actually.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85540 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:07 pm to
Lol. That's your analysis? Good old boys network ? Like just a random Leftist cliché satisfies you ? That's all you require? Just stop....
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14299 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:11 pm to
What do those 5 richest states have in common besides the Democrat thing? And shall we talk about poorest cities?
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:15 pm to
In Texas you can live like a king for 125,000, that is two people. Kids really run up the bills.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:15 pm to
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That's your analysis? Good old boys network ? Like just a random Leftist cliché satisfies you ? That's all you require? Just stop....


Was it not as in-depth as this:
quote:

So if we would just have a Democratic legislature we'd be rich too . I have always suspected that !


Hypocrite.

If you really want to discuss it further I can. Typically where there are lots of Republicans there is a very deep divide between rich and poor.


It doesn't take a genius to see how removing social programs and privatizing everything does not benefit the infrastructure for the less fortunate to succeed. It's not rocket science.

Good old boy Network refers to rewarding you and your own and keeping nepotism and cronyism alive. I grew up in Louisiana and saw it all first hand.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31855 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:20 pm to
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Take Louisiana for instance, break it down parish by parish and zoom in on actual neighborhoods and you'll see that the poorest areas ACTUALLY vote democrat.








Pretty much.

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:23 pm to
I'm looking at a list of states ranked by Gini coefficient and there are plenty of blue states populating the top of the list and red states at the bottom of the list. For those unfamiliar as I was a few minutes ago, a score of 0 indicates everyone makes the same amount of money while a score of 1 means that the entire states income is earned by a single person. Your assertion that would indicate that it s a Republican phenomena of rewarding a good ole boy network that drives income inequality would suggest that red states should be dominating the top of this list, but they aren't.

51 District of Columbia 0.5420
50 New York 0.5229
49 Louisiana 0.4990
48 Connecticut 0.4945
47 California 0.4899
46 Florida 0.4852
45 Alabama 0.4847
44 Mississippi 0.4828
41 New Jersey 0.4813
42 Kentucky 0.4813
43 Georgia 0.4813
40 Illinois 0.4810
39 Texas 0.4800
38 Tennessee 0.4790
37 Massachusetts 0.4786
36 Rhode Island 0.4781
35 North Carolina 0.4780
34 New Mexico 0.4769
33 South Carolina 0.4735
32 Arkansas 0.4719
31 Arizona 0.4713
30 West Virginia 0.4711
29 Virginia 0.4705
28 Michigan 0.4695
27 Pennsylvania 0.4689
26 Ohio 0.4680
25 Montana 0.4667
24 Missouri 0.4646
23 Oklahoma 0.4645
22 Washington 0.4591
21 Colorado 0.4586
20 Oregon 0.4583
19 Nevada 0.4577
18 Kansas 0.4550
17 Vermont 0.4539
16 North Dakota 0.4533
15 Indiana 0.4527
14 Delaware 0.4522
13 Maine 0.4519
12 Idaho 0.4503
11 Maryland 0.4499
10 Wisconsin 0.4498
9 Minnesota 0.4496
8 South Dakota 0.4495
7 Nebraska 0.4477
6 Iowa 0.4451
5 Hawaii 0.4420
4 Wyoming 0.4360
3 New Hampshire 0.4304
2 Alaska 0.4081
1 Utah 0.4063


This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85540 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:25 pm to
Garbage in garbage out. As all Marxist deconstructions are.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:26 pm to
Hahahaha. Nice
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Garbage in garbage out. As all Marxist deconstructions are.


Well you've given so much meaningful contribution so I can see where you would have that high horse view. Pfft.
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