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re: Nationalism? Damn straight
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:44 pm to TBoy
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:44 pm to TBoy
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does involve the promotion of some sud-identity as a kind of nationality, such as a racial or cultural identity.
I knew you didn't understand what it meant in this context.
Thanks for proving it.
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:45 pm to CelticDog
Triggered are you?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:47 pm to TBoy
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Being proud of America is not nationalism. It’s garden variety patriotism. Nationalism within an already sovereign nation does involve the promotion of some sud-identity as a kind of nationality, such as a racial or cultural identity. In as much as the OP was misusing the term nationalism in place of ordinary patriotism, that isn’t what the term nationalism means.
Patriotism = great things your country DID.
nationalism = great things your country is going to DO.
In other words, liberals will allow people to remember your rich history but any talk about “getting the band back together” is quickly labeled as naziism.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:11 pm to TBoy
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America is already a nation free of foreign rule.
I said nothing about being ruled. I however highly insinuated we don't need influence from foreign countries on how to do our business. You are interjecting your opinion into mine to fit your opinion. Imagine that.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:18 pm to Robin Masters
You can call frogs pigs if you want. Stupid usually circles the wagons.
Answer this. The Nationalist Front are just proud of American accomplishments? Or does nationalism mean something different?
Before you go around declaring yourself a nationalist, you should be able to say what qualities make up the nation you are promoting.
Answer this. The Nationalist Front are just proud of American accomplishments? Or does nationalism mean something different?
Before you go around declaring yourself a nationalist, you should be able to say what qualities make up the nation you are promoting.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:23 pm to TBoy
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Or does nationalism mean something different?
Do you not have access to any online resources?
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Nationalism is a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty
Nationalists are anti globalists, usualy anti UN
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:26 pm to TBoy
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such as a racial or cultural identity
You're stupid and easily influenced by terrible leftist propaganda
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:28 pm to RazorBroncs
Tboy and Celtic dawg aren't liberals.
They are racist blacks.
Still slaves to the white Dems, just too stupid to realize it.
They are racist blacks.
Still slaves to the white Dems, just too stupid to realize it.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:33 pm to TBoy
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Before you go around declaring yourself a nationalist
You really should read up on the Bilderberg Group. Do you actually want us to be part of what they believe because if you do you can kiss your freedom as you know it good-bye.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:41 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:You are free to make up new definitions to common words if it suits you. And let's be honest...you probably only associate with people who are equally as ignorant of the historical context of the word as you are.
It's what my definition means.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:49 pm to Tigerdev
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ignorant of the historical context of the word as you are.
Nationalism is a very broad term that has been used by hundreds if not thousands of political movements and political figures throughout history. It is inaccurate to claim its overall history is one of malignancy. Hell, the republican party during the civil war was so "nationalistic" that it literally supported suspending habeus corpus and freedom of the press for criticizing the war effort.
Besides the point, you are casting guilt simply by association.
It is no different than people shitting on all forms of government intervention and public assistance because "muh Venezuela"
There is nothing a priori wrong with the idea of the importance of national identity and national communal values.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:09 am to Homesick Tiger
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If you need or want to depend on me, then I get to make the rules. It's as simple as that.
I tell this to my 4 children often:)
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:23 am to Homesick Tiger
The problem with nationalism is it creates an environment for an overpowered federal government. Which is where we're at.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 4:46 am to Hester Carries
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The problem with nationalism is it creates an environment for an overpowered federal government. Which is where we're at.
Uh, I'm pretty sure that is what Trump is trying to do, depower the federal government. Relieve us of some personal tax burdens, relief us from too many government restrictions, relieve us from the strain of illegal immigration are three big ones I can think of.
Maybe you need to rethink your definition.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 5:38 am to Tigerdev
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You are free to make up new definitions to common words if it suits you. And let's be honest...you probably only associate with people who are equally as ignorant of the historical context of the word as you are.
Your arrogance is only rivaled by your ignorance. The people in this thread are using the actual definition of nationalism. It's the left trying to redefine the word to meet their unfounded beliefs of racism. You people just can't help pushing race into everything.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 5:43 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Your arrogance is only rivaled by your ignorance. The people in this thread are using the actual definition of nationalism
The cucks are getting mad, because we are taking their word back. Muh white nationalist It’s a smart move by Trump and it’s rules for radicals 101
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 5:51 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:26 am to Homesick Tiger
Great post! The idiot left is simply trying to import voters. They don't give a damn about young people here or my children or grandchildren. They simply want raw power in the here and now. In their quest for power they destroyed the black family infrastructure which was strong at one point. And replaced it with a welfare-drug dealer-gang inner city culture. But thank goodness Mr Trump is reversing that by giving them jobs and the pride that comes with those.
So the left has now dropped blacks (they now take their votes for granted) and jobless immigrants are their new voter group to be enslaved. And the harsh reality is this: Those people are from an entirely different culture and will not blend in quickly or easily. So we are importing their circumstances, and they are the lowest demographic in their native lands. Basically we are importing poverty and hopelessness to America.
Bottom line is we can't save the world. It is a challenge for people to save themselves. But we can save ourselves and be in a position to help the rest of the world.
So the left has now dropped blacks (they now take their votes for granted) and jobless immigrants are their new voter group to be enslaved. And the harsh reality is this: Those people are from an entirely different culture and will not blend in quickly or easily. So we are importing their circumstances, and they are the lowest demographic in their native lands. Basically we are importing poverty and hopelessness to America.
Bottom line is we can't save the world. It is a challenge for people to save themselves. But we can save ourselves and be in a position to help the rest of the world.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 6:28 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 7:11 am to TBoy
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So what self identifying group is he advocating form an independent country?
It also encompasses the push for independent sovereignty
ETA: for that matter, it also includes the prioritization of national interests over international interests.
All of this was present and in operation during the nationalist period at the turn of the 20th century in Europe and beyond.
What did you think it meant?
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 7:14 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 7:24 am to TBoy
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Nationalism within an already sovereign nation does involve the promotion of some sud-identity as a kind of nationality, such as a racial or cultural identity.
Nope. That would be ethnocentrism, racism, etc.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 7:27 am to TBoy
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Answer this. The Nationalist Front are just proud of American accomplishments? Or does nationalism mean something different?
So because some group mislabeles themselves, we should accept their bastardization of the term?
So does “Republic” now mean single-party communism because China labels themselves the “People’s Republic of China”?
ETA: or better yet, ANTIFA?
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 7:28 am
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