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re: National Archives Quietly Releases Trove Of JFK Assassination Records

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Posted by LSUBALLER
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:16 pm to
Trump couldn’t do it because then there wouldn’t had been any redactions. Government wasn’t going to have any of that . Never heard redactions before in my life now everyday I hear it.
Posted by tigerinexile
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Facts are facts. A copy of Oswald's marksmanship records from the Marines


His handlers could’ve easily taken care of this.
Posted by Rabby
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:49 pm to
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The first wound in the throat is an entrance wound with no exit , probably same bullet that went through windshield .
I must admit that I am a bit confused by this sentence.
Posted by Heyes
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:08 pm to
The bullet went into his body at the throat and didn’t have enough velocity to escape his body … shot fired from the front went through the windshield and then into jfk’s throat and remained in the body . Hopefully this clears up what I meant
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Kenn was hit about Zup 154
Kennedy was relaxed in Zapruder 154


In frame 184, nearly 2 seconds later, JFK is still relaxed and waving to the crowd.


He and Connally were hit around frame 224/225. JFK begins to reach for his throat. Connally's jacket lapel tints out as the bullet passes through it.

Connally - frames 224-225


Zapruder film frame by frame


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Your going into the rabbit hole now. that is a drawing supposedly of film
The pictures below were taken during the autopsy.




Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:08 pm to
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The "magic bullet" condition is.


Did they test the “magic bullet” to see if it had been fired by Oswsld’s rifle?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:16 pm to
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Brennan's account:
Brennan's account is dubious (to be kind). Brennan was standing at the corner of Elm and Houston.

Robert Hughes' film ( LINK) captured the TSBD 6th floor window as the limo traveled down Houston St and turned onto Elm. There was no movement, or person visible in the window.

Here is one of the last 'Hughes' frames.

If you ever visit the TSBD museum and get to observe the actual layout, you'd see the only way Oswald could take a shot down elm would be by keeling (not standing as Brennan claims), and positioning himself toward the east corner of the building behind and against the wall near the window behind boxes near the window. That would place him fully out of sight from Brennan's location.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:24 pm to
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Did they test the “magic bullet” to see if it had been fired by Oswsld’s rifle?
Yes. Are you ready?
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The committee firearms panel determined that the evidence stored in the National Archives ballistically matched the bullets fired by the FBI in 1964 tests from the Mannlicher-Carcano found by Boone. Since the rifle had been test fired numerous times since 1963, its barrel had been altered by wear, and bullets the panel fired from the rifle did not match either the FBI test cartridges or those found on the sixth floor of depository or that found on the stretcher.
LINK
Posted by NCIS_76
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:30 pm to
Was there any mention of any bullet actually splitting on impact? I’m asking. I don’t know.
Posted by wertheimer
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:38 pm to
Thats an exit wound from the front that went into back of upholstery. Better yet look above right eye at the hairline what do you think that is? its a entrance bullet wound. I will correct myself about Zep. frame numbers, I meant to say Kennedy was hit at 190. Connally was hit by separate Gunfire.About the Zup. Film, I saw a version in Maryland in the 70's at a University that showed the Real Uncut Version( or at least I was told it was) In this version Zup starts the film BEFORE the car turns into ELM St. my meaning is that No one outside of a few Big MIC has ever seen the REAL UNCUT ZUP. Film. Frames have been removed frames have been moved around,frames have ben black colored in, before the end of the day that film was in Rochester Ny at the ultra secret Kodak Lab, I would venture to say after almost 60 years.We will never see the real, uncut version.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:41 pm to
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Brennan's account is dubious (to be kind). Brennan was standing at the corner of Elm and Houston.

Robert Hughes' film ( LINK) captured the TSBD 6th floor window as the limo traveled down Houston St and turned onto Elm. There was no movement, or person visible in the window.



wha? so just because you can't see anything in that still image, nobody shot from there? sorry but brennan wasn't the only person that saw someone shooting from that window. there were two employees at the 5th floor window directly under that same 6th floor window (notice you can't see them in that frame either?) and they confirmed that shots were coming from above. they even heard the shells dropping to the floor. another kid on the street saw the gun firing from that window although he didn't see the shooter's face.

just because brennan said 'standing' doesnt mean it should be discounted. he is on the street and looking up so from his vantage point, oswald looks to be standing.

in the video below it shows where brennan was standing. the video also shows BRENNAN HIMSELF stating he saw oswald shooting:

LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:43 pm to
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I meant to say Kennedy was hit at 190
He's still waving at Frame 205.
Posted by skeeter531
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:45 pm to
and how do we know the person Brennan said he saw was actually Oswald and not someone planted there who resembled Oswald?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:48 pm to
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Frames have been removed frames have been moved around
Frames removed? How? Have you ever dealt with 8mm film?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:51 pm to
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just because brennan said 'standing' doesnt mean it should be discounted. he is on the street and looking up so from his vantage point, oswald looks to be standing.

No.
Of course not.

The fact that from the corner of Houston and Elm, he could not possibly have seen what he claimed to see, means it should be discounted.
Posted by RELEE
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:59 pm to
I still think that Kruschev, Castro, the Southern Governors, The Mob, and the CIA conspired alltogether.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 7:03 pm to
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and how do we know the person Brennan said he saw was actually Oswald and not someone planted there who resembled Oswald?



we know because we have the gun that ballistics proved did the shooting and only oswald's fingerprints are on it. if it was a stunt double doing the shooting as you're suggesting, then another set of fingerprints should be on the rifle as none of the eyewitnesses saw any gloves.

lol that is one of the silliest theories about the assasination that i've heard thus far
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 7:05 pm to
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The fact that from the corner of Houston and Elm, he could not possibly have seen what he claimed to see, means it should be discounted.


completely false. in the video i posted it shows where he was standing and you obviously can see someone in the window from that angle.

lol the tinfoil hats are in complete denial!
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 7:19 pm to
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we know because we have the gun that ballistics proved did the shooting and only oswald's fingerprints are on it.
Really?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 7:26 pm to
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in the video i posted it shows ...
I cannot find that. Can you re-post it?

Because from the Hughes film, there clearly is no one visible in the 6th floor TSBD window, during the time the POTUS Limo preceded down Houston St or during its turn onto Elm.
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