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re: Nate Silver has lost it and never be taken seriously again

Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:25 pm to
He recently tweeted "but Hunter's emails" and how it's only to " boost the morale of the Trumpiest." He really does have a lot of TDS
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:29 pm to
538 is predicting like 340 something electoral votes. This is one of the outlier scenarios if there was a landslide.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29049 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:32 pm to
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I don’t see where Silver has released this map as a prediction about the election. What’s the link for this?
He posted it on Twitter

This isn't "his" prediction, this is the map that corresponds to a cluster or spike in the probability chart.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26937 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:33 pm to
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538 is predicting like 340 something electoral votes. This is one of the outlier scenarios if there was a landslide.



So they just throw a ton of possible “predictions” out there, then point to the one that ends up being right?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:34 pm to
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So they just throw a ton of possible “predictions” out there, then point to the one that ends up being right?



Yep, see the post right above yours
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22712 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:37 pm to
Lol what a clown show
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20679 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:37 pm to
Guarantee AT LEAST 20 Million fraudulent ballot are in process and going into the system. Biden's TX campaign manager, Dallas Jones, already got busted in Harris County with up to 700,000 and nobody is doing jack about it either. And just released this afternoon - stacks and stacks of thousands of fraudulent driver licenses have been found in Texas.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:37 pm to
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So they just throw a ton of possible “predictions” out there, then point to the one that ends up being right?
No. They have a forecast of the most likely scenarios (340-350 EVs) based on 40,000 simulations, and a range of possible scenarios from a Biden landslide to Trump winning comfortably since it’s a probabilistic forecast.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17228 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:38 pm to
Only dems took him seriously before
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17514 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:39 pm to
I will say this, if Trump loses Florida, Michigan or Wisconsin, he's toast. He HAS to win all three.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2264 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:41 pm to
He has to win Wisconsin?

How about snagging Minnesota instead?

He has to win Michigan? What about Pennsylvania?

Florida is huge for either candidate.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36460 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:44 pm to
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No. They have a forecast of the most likely scenarios (340-350 EVs) based on 40,000 simulations, and a range of possible scenarios from a Biden landslide to Trump winning comfortably since it’s a probabilistic forecast.


Based on flawed polling models. In fact going out of his way to disparage the only poll that predicted trump to win the rust belt states. If I poll the local republican chairs of every state then I have a 99% chance that Trump wins every state. Doesn’t mean my analysis isn’t flawed.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36460 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:45 pm to
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I will say this, if Trump loses Florida, Michigan or Wisconsin, he's toast. He HAS to win all three


Trump is over 270 if he wins fl NC arizona and Michigan. Which is not an unreasonable prediction whatsoever
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted by iheartchimichangas
Member since Jul 2016
748 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:56 pm to
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Nate Silver has lost it and never be taken seriously again


I can do the same in Photoshop, but it equates to jack shite. Polls and predictions skewed so much reminds me of the white dude in a Ford with a 24 inch lift and bull nuts on the rear.

They are obviously overcompensating for something...
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80126 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:59 pm to
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Doesn’t he just crunch the numbers?


Yes, but you have to start with valid data.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20679 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:02 pm to
Omar has Minnesota covered with tens of thousands of illegal ballots in her district alone. Her associates have the rest of the state covered.
The Michigan governor has the corruption covered for Biden too.
Do not underestimate the massive corruption that has been going on for decades and is currently in hyperdrive for this election.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29049 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:02 pm to
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So they just throw a ton of possible “predictions” out there, then point to the one that ends up being right?
No, but the fact that you've asked this question gives us some insight into why so many people don't understand probability.

Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27561 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:12 pm to
But if it isn’t a prediction, then this is more fake outrage.

Right wingers are all emotion and no facts.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:13 pm to
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Guarantee AT LEAST 20 Million fraudulent ballot are in process and going into the system. Biden's TX campaign manager, Dallas Jones, already got busted in Harris County with up to 700,000 and nobody is doing jack about it either. And just released this afternoon - stacks and stacks of thousands of fraudulent driver licenses have been found in Texas.


Link? That's the stuff of nightmares.
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