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re: Nancy and Dems keep repeating open the government
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:01 am to TBPland
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:01 am to TBPland
I'm saying Trump will never get his "Wall", not even with his name on it. It's a pipedream folks.
Since the wall is an absurd, dumb idea and also because Trump is clearly losing politically on this issue I'm standing my ground as a Democrat.
The wall, we will never negotiate on. Now if you want to negotiate about border security without a wall, we can talk.
Since the wall is an absurd, dumb idea and also because Trump is clearly losing politically on this issue I'm standing my ground as a Democrat.
The wall, we will never negotiate on. Now if you want to negotiate about border security without a wall, we can talk.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:03 am to Cole Beer
Why, are you suggesting walls don't work?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:11 am to Cole Beer
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I don't understand why Trump won't just accept their deal and re-open the government. Then if your Don, you spin it: A. Look at what a great deal maker I am B. Under my leadership we just made the border very secure, more secure than ever! C. Whatever other stuff he says all the time that he claims is true, but clearly is not
LOL at this guy for trying to give the PRESIDENT advice without knowing how to use your/you’re properly
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:15 am to Cole Beer
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I don't understand why Trump won't just accept their deal and re-open the government.
Because the President is leading and wants to make meaningful impact in dealing with a problem that's been going on for decades.
What were your other questions?
oh right, you wanted to bash...
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:17 am to NYNolaguy1
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Mostly because the essential empployees are working without pay under threat of going AWOL.
Every workplace has its downsides.
Mine is no exception.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:22 am to Cole Beer
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Trump is clearly losing politically on this issue I'm standing my ground as a Democrat.
Wow, I bet you have some awesome polling data to back this up
That'll show 'em
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:23 am to ApexTiger
They have been doing this for every shut down for as long as I can remember and the Republicans have caved every time. I hope Trump sticks this out.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:26 am to ApexTiger
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The shutdown is 100% on the Democrat at this point.
Trump disagrees with you.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:27 am to Cole Beer
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The wall, we will never negotiate on.
WHY? I've never heard a single democrat answer that question.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:29 am to TrueTiger
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Every workplace has its downsides.
I am guessing your workplace won't put you on trial and possibly imprison you for not showing up for work.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:29 am to Cole Beer
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I don't understand why Trump won't just accept their deal and re-open the government.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:33 am to ApexTiger
they think trump will cave, but he wont, they still have no clue who they are dealing with
expect the shutdown to continue into march and even april if need be and the american people arent happy about that but no one is blaming trump because he has shown he has tried everything he can to end it.
every day this goes on reduces the number of votes dimms will get in 2020
expect the shutdown to continue into march and even april if need be and the american people arent happy about that but no one is blaming trump because he has shown he has tried everything he can to end it.
every day this goes on reduces the number of votes dimms will get in 2020
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:27 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I am guessing your workplace won't put you on trial and possibly imprison you for not showing up for work.
The 13th Amendment outlawed slavery, anyone can quit their job as they please.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:32 pm to Cole Beer
You might think you’tre standing your ground, but there is no ground for you to stand on. Strategically placed walls and barriers do work.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:52 pm to ApexTiger
Nancy has already publicly said even if the government is reopened she will not negotiate on the wall. How idiotic do you have to be?
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:52 pm to Jbird
The longer this fracas goes on the worse the president looks. I know there's no shortage of blame to go around for employees not being paid, which is illegal under the terms of FLSA, but the public perception is that Trump is 100% responsible for the shutdown.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:53 pm to tarzana
You have some real stats for your assertions, or is it just your personal opinion you're sharing with us?!?! 
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:54 pm to tarzana
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but the public perception is that Trump is 100% responsible for the shutdown.
Wow, that's a lie that even the left wing media won't tell. They put it at 65% and that's a lie.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 1:04 pm to tarzana
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Trump is 100% responsible for the shutdown
Empirical observation. Everyone I've spoken to over the last month has said this.
Trump needs to make concessions, as much as it hurts his pride, get the government open, and make sure the workers are fully paid. Where is his leadership? The Art Of The Deal, my a@@.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 1:22 pm to Zach
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OK, I've been waiting to see anyone on TV or print media answer this question. So, I'll try right here.
My question is one word: 'Why?'
Why is opening the govt necessary in order to start a negotiation? Why?
Because that is the way it has always been done. Open the government and we will talk about stuff. Then nothing gets done.
Its like someone robs a bank and the cops have it surrounded. Bank robber says let me go with all the money and Ill give it back later.
Yeah right. Sure you will.
It is like the perpetual continuing resolutions and no budget. Just keep kicking the can down the road. How long ago was the last budget, I think about 10 years. 10 frickING years without a budget. That is insane.
I hope they leave it closed. Trump should say he wants an extra billion for the wall for every day it is closed.
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