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re: My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem

Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:27 pm to
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I don't actually think it's a problem

Well that's because you think it's "imaginary".
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:27 pm to
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Not so much I know other people think it's a problem I don't actually think it's a problem


People tried to delve into that discussion.

You spent 19 pages avoiding it. You just want to DECLARE it's not a problem and be done with it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:27 pm to
what page did we shift from "imaginary problem"to "less of a problem"? I'm on a tight schedule and I want to be able to quickly navigate to your fail.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:27 pm to
The cheap solution would be to send one whiny liberal to Mexico for every illegal that comes up through their border.

Within a week Mexico would have a new candidate for President and he would be holding rallies in Mexico City "We're gonna build that wall, and the US is gonna pay for it"

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:28 pm to
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I don't actually think it's a problem


Why?

Why isn’t 300,000+ ILLEGAL immigrants coming into our country a problem?


No mental gymnastics, just answers please
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:29 pm to
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what page did we shift from "imaginary problem"to "less of a problem"? I'm on a tight schedule and I want to be able to quickly navigate to your fail.

Depends he has waivered back and forth in the last few pages. He is now moving onto his "feels" on the matter.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:29 pm to
Damn, is there any meat left on the Powerbottom bones. Ya'll done picked her clean.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:30 pm to
I’m about to put my pecker in her empty eye socket and gyrate
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:30 pm to
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Damn, is there any meat left on the Powerbottom bones. Ya'll done picked her clean.

I am just here waiting for him to claim victory.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:30 pm to
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But from the point of view from someone who thinks it's a problem it's certainly much less of a problem now than it was previously


I know this is a waste to point out by you can only say that if the following are true

1. The current number is due to some reason that we have a reasonable amount of control over.

2. We can expect to maintain control over those factors going forward.

Even in this thread, NOTHING you posted as a "cause" could be remotely described as meeting 1 or 2.

Therefore, you still have a problem that you have no control over going forward.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:31 pm to
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Or not a problem worthy of new big government solutions


The wall is not big govt expense. Taking care of millions of illegals through entitlement programs is a big govt expense.

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The extent of the problem is certainly imaginary


No, it's not. You just wish it to be so. The trend line you keep referring to is not constant. The big decrease came after the election of Trump. A reversal of his intent reverses that impact and the trend line will change.

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And you could in fact argue that it's not a problem at all


No. You could only argue that if you want open borders which is what Dems want. It's for voter registration.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:31 pm to
Those 310k are based on arrests or turn aways not the number that don’t get caught

But even if it is the real number...

The illegals cost us money

It is easy to speculate that their annual cost to tax payers is greater than 2000 a year each in social services

Hell it costs 11K per year to educate each one of their kids
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Depends he has waivered back and forth in the last few pages. He is now moving onto his "feels" on the matter.
I think he realized saying it was "less of a problem" was a tactical error.

So, now he's shifted it to, "well, if YOU think it's a problem, then it's less of a problem now".

Alas. He's quoted as saying "I would say it's less of a problem" so............yeah.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:33 pm to
Victory soon to be announced.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Why?

Why isn’t 300,000+ ILLEGAL immigrants coming into our country a problem?
Because they’re poor and uneducated and can be bought for votes along with they’re millions of offspring.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Victory soon to be announced.
It's coming.......you know it is.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:34 pm to
Power is easily read.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:35 pm to
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This is pretty much what DisplacedCuckeye does too.



I've been thinking this the entire thread.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Power is easily read.
He's waiting for at least 1 or 2 of us to stop posting.

Then, we'll get some general paraphrase of.

"Welp. I guess people proved they don't really want to discuss my facts...........I guess I won again".
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47511 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:36 pm to
600K visa overstays for global immigrants = massive problem.

300K illegal crossings at Mexican border alone = imaginary problem.
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