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re: My kids school is having us sign an authorization for background

Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Tvilletiger
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:24 am to
There is a small process like this at my kids school for parent volunteers that will be on campus. Go on school trips. Volunteer coach.(the coaching stuff may also use safe sport)
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:26 am to
That’s a hard no for me. No good can come from sending your kid to a school that doesn’t see the inherent problem with something that personally invasive. It sounds almost like having a second wife without the benefits.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:28 am to
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That’s a hard no for me. No good can come from sending your kid to a school that doesn’t see the inherent problem with something that personally invasive. It sounds almost like having a second wife without the benefits.


So you would be good with Timmy's Dad, the convicted child predator, going along on your kid's class field trip?
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3437 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:29 am to
The wording

I —— authorize —— and verified first to conduct an appropriate background investigation including byt not limited to personal interviews for derermination of my eligibility to occupy a position of trust. I authorize all persons who may have information relevant to this background investigation to disclose it to verify first or its agents and release all persons from liability on account from such dis lclosure.
I also authorize any oerson organizationor agency having knowledge of my conduct or activities or any past or present employer or any retail association, bank, financial institution or credit extending institution or any dean, registrar, principal or counselor, instructor or other authorized person at a school, any doctor, medical professional, clinic sanatorium, clinic, or any dept agency of a city, county or state or federal govt to release info to verified first and agents for background purpose
I release—- and its agents from all
Liability resulting from collection use or disclosure of any info resulting from
investigation…

im getting huge red flags. Is this the new trojan horse?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16439 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:33 am to
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So you would be good with Timmy's Dad, the convicted child predator, going along on your kid's class field trip?


It would take a background check to find that out? Google can deliver that news to you. If he is a convicted child predator.. he has had to notify the local police if he moved there and they could tell the school that. They probably have to anyway.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:33 am to
This is a homeschool coop
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:34 am to
You post here so you wouldn’t pass.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:36 am to
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You seem to be trolling here, why the background check, they didn't tell you?


Frick you man. I posted the entirety of the body.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:42 am to
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You post here so you wouldn’t pass.


Wonder if that will be true eventually??
Posted by AggieHank86
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:45 am to
I am a member of the Dad's Club, and we all had to do a background check to volunteer at the school. (I tutor).

Seems to be SOP these days, though the breadth of this one seems excessive. I think ours was just a criminal record check.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43976 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:46 am to
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When you homeschool your child, you don't have to worry about "asking" or "giving" permission for much of anything.

Just saying.


Yes but then your kids turn out soft and socially awkward. If it is a public school then tell the school to take a hike and eat shite. If it is a private school, ask if they want their F**k off before or after the tuition check.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:46 am to
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Wonder if that will be true eventually??


Probably closer to reality than we would like to admit. It will be the Jjdoc and GumboPot types that eventually turn on you to save themselves.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25241 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:55 am to
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Background check for what?
It says for "eligibility to occupy a position of trust"

Sounds like its background checks for parents who want to volunteer to help out for class holiday parties, field days, chaperone for school dances or field trips.


quote:

I —— authorize —— and verified first to conduct an appropriate background investigation including but not limited to personal interviews for determination of my eligibility to occupy a position of trust. I authorize all persons who may have information relevant to this background investigation to disclose it to verify first or its agents and release all persons from liability on account from such dis lclosure.
I also authorize any person organization or agency having knowledge of my conduct or activities or any past or present employer or any retail association, bank, financial institution or credit extending institution or any dean, registrar, principal or counselor, instructor or other authorized person at a school, any doctor, medical professional, clinic sanatorium, clinic, or any dept agency of a city, county or state or federal govt to release info to verified first and agents for background purpose
I release—- and its agents from all
Liability resulting from collection use or disclosure of any info resulting from
investigation…


But authorizing them to obtain banking and financial records or medical history seems ridiculously excessive. As a parent who volunteered to chaperone quite a few field trips, I wouldn't have signed something that broad. Criminal background check and/or contacting a previous school's administration for reference is about the extent of their business.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6359 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:08 am to
If you are volunteering for something that puts you around the kids all the time, then you might have to sign it.
But if it is just because your kid goes to school there, then screw it. I wouldn't sign it.

Tell them I've been background checked for my gun purchases and for my CHL if you have one.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34229 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:14 am to
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I don't know a single state where that's the threshold. It's usually to work a school event or help with a field trip.


Private schools
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16439 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:17 am to
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But authorizing them to obtain banking and financial records or medical history seems ridiculously excessive.


It is. It absolutely is.

Just get a concealed carry permit. Then when they ask to do a background check, flash the permit and say “already done. Make a copy of this”.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85542 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:21 am to
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So you would be good with Timmy's Dad, the convicted child predator, going along on your kid's class field trip?


Seriously? That's my choice? Either I agree to have the bureaucrats at my school scrub every parent's background or Timmy's Dad rapes my kids? That's not a false choice at all, is it?

With all due respect, my kids were able to make it through 39 years of collective schooling, without either being molested by Timmy's Dad or having parents go through background checks. I'm pretty sure that every person I have ever met was able to go to school, avoid rapey men, and all without background checks. I have never really associated sexual molestation with field trips, but then again, I'm comfortable with acceptable levels of risk. The kind of risk that is inherently part of being alive on planet earth. IMHO, there is no need for your moral panic or school bureaucrats deep-diving our lives.

Also, last time I checked, no authorization is required for someone to do a background check on another person. Dig all you want, just don't me to sign your little slip of paper.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20839 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:47 am to
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This is a homeschool coop

Kind of a key piece of information that was left out. Since it is a coop, it is a private group and they can set the rules they want. You can either abide by them and have your kids in the coop, or you can reject them and do something different (another coop, public school, private school...)

Out of curiosity, how big of a coop are we talking about? 8-10 kids around the same ages?


By the way, I agree it sounds a little excessive; but this could be there way to filter out people they do not believe will fit into their own little society.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 11:48 am
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3437 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 12:16 pm to
Its a couple hundred kids. I wasnt asking if they had the right to request it… just if i should sign it or if anyone knew about verify first. They can ask and my daughter can still attend… it just seems like an overreaching document with few limits and no protections in place for the signer. My wife thinks im silly for not signing but its far too broad. Btw.. nothing to hide and nothing in my past
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

quote:
That’s a hard no for me. No good can come from sending your kid to a school that doesn’t see the inherent problem with something that personally invasive. It sounds almost like having a second wife without the benefits.


So you would be good with Timmy's Dad, the convicted child predator, going along on your kid's class field trip?


Or even, Timmy's dad, with a restraining order that prevents him from picking up Timmy from school.
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