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re: My friend's cousins are stranded in Kabul
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:51 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:51 am to FooManChoo
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There are none who are too sinful to be saved from their sins
There's also "prudent" and "not prudent" when exercising all that good will.
The only missions that should be going to the middle east are combat missions involving thousands and thousands of cave collapsing bunker busters.
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:04 am to ShoeBang
quote:It’s prudent for Christians to preach the gospel. The message of the cross is the power of God for eternal life. Christians aren’t supposed to shy away from danger when trying to reach people with the truth. Christians have been martyred for their faith since the beginning.
There's also "prudent" and "not prudent" when exercising all that good will.
The only missions that should be going to the middle east are combat missions involving thousands and thousands of cave collapsing bunker busters.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:07 am to FooManChoo
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Christians aren’t supposed to shy away from danger when trying to reach people with the truth.
Well then I guess I shouldn't feel sorry for them since they will probably be in line waiting for St. Peter to introduce them to the kingdom any day now.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:08 am to FooManChoo
A A Milne, who wrote the Winnie The Pooh stories, was a missionary to Samoa. The ones before him had been killed and he had prepared a coffin to bring with him to be used should he be martyred while over there.
He ended up being successful in his mission.
He ended up being successful in his mission.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:15 am to burger bearcat
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Just got word that my wife and I good friend's cousin and his wife are both missionary workers who are stranded in Kabul and no one has been able to reach them. What a terrible situation.
Can you or anyone explain why these kinds of people weren't getting the hell out of there, once it was obvious that the military was beating feet? I feel for these folks situation, but I'm having a hard time having a lot of sympathy for people, who don't use common sense. Why should more American blood be spilled, and lives lost, to save people without enough sense to know when to GTFO? I probably can't spell Afghanistan, and I know that there were thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands waiting for the day the American military left.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:15 am to ShoeBang
quote:Just because Christians are doing a good thing by risking their lives to save others doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be empathetic regarding their suffering at the hands of wicked people. We should feel even more sorry for them for suffering for a good cause.
Well then I guess I shouldn't feel sorry for them since they will probably be in line waiting for St. Peter to introduce them to the kingdom any day now.
The difference is that Christians don’t have to feel hopeless when such atrocities occur. We can have hope and trust in God’s sovereign justice and His promises.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:18 am to burger bearcat
I kinda wish we'd get a running list ... a Georgia poster has friends there ... Meridiandawg has friends/family there ... Mid Iowa Tiger has a son in I think special forces there.
So many prayers for all of them.
So many prayers for all of them.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:21 am to FooManChoo
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There are none who are too sinful to be saved from their sins. That’s the hope that is found in Jesus Christ and it is exactly why Christians go all over the world preaching the message of hope to all peoples and nations.
Maybe, but you know God didn't try to save those Egyptians who were chasing the Jews. He killed them. He killed a lot of savages in the Bible if you think about it.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:27 am to troyt37
quote:God is free to act as is right according to His perfect nature and will. In those cases, God was saving and preserving His people while judging the wicked nations and tribes who sought to enslave and destroy His people.
Maybe, but you know God didn't try to save those Egyptians who were chasing the Jews. He killed them. He killed a lot of savages in the Bible if you think about it.
Christians are not called to take justice into our own hands. We are called to preach the gospel in love for sinners like those in Afghanistan and in all nations throughout the earth.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:28 am to burger bearcat
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Just got word that my wife and I good friend's cousin and his wife are both missionary workers who are stranded in Kabul and no one has been able to reach them. What a terrible situation.
Brilliant decision by your friends cousin and wife.
If they get out alive, maybe they can go to North Sentinel Island for their next assignment.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:29 am to burger bearcat
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missionary workers
Don’t feel bad for people like this.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:30 am to burger bearcat
quote:I am assuming Christian missionaries and if so, they are in a terrible situation; maybe even worse than the Afgans that they are trying to find that worked with the US. Other than embassy workers and the like, I am not sure why any American would still be there.
Just got word that my wife and I good friend's cousin and his wife are both missionary workers who are stranded in Kabul and no one has been able to reach them. What a terrible situation.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:32 am to Northwestern tiger
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Out of all the places in the world, they decide to do missionary work in Afghanistan.
Yeah. Weird. They go where people need to hear the gospel, sometimes on pain of death. Where have I read about that?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:34 am to troyt37
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Can you or anyone explain why these kinds of people weren't getting the hell out of there, once it was obvious that the military was beating feet?
If they can't be found it's very possible that they are beating feet right now.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:34 am to FooManChoo
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We can have hope and trust in God’s sovereign justice and His promises.
Pie in the Sky vs being tortured to death for trying to help people. Call me St. Thomas, because I have my doubts.
Glad there ae people who can make themselves believe in something that has exactly zero proof attached. I just can't, never have been.
It's why religious zealots confuse the shite out of me. If hell exists, I'll find out when I die because that's where I'm headed if the good book isn't just bullshite
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:43 am to FooManChoo
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Christians are not called to take justice into our own hands. We are called to preach the gospel in love for sinners like those in Afghanistan and in all nations throughout the earth.
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God is free to act as is right according to His perfect nature and will. In those cases, God was saving and preserving His people while judging the wicked nations and tribes who sought to enslave and destroy His people.
I'm not good enough with the Bible to debate you, but your statement implies that Christians should not even defend themselves. I couldn't disagree more. All that does is leave the door open for the evil and murderous to slaughter their way to victory, which is what has been happening for quite a while now.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:46 am to ShoeBang
If those missionaries were successful and converted families , did they explain what happens next? The Taliban, etc. don't take kindly to those who leave their one true faith.
It will take a faith as strong as the middle ages in the coming days.
It will take a faith as strong as the middle ages in the coming days.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:49 am to ShoeBang
quote:Proof is that which convinces a person of the truth of something. What is proof to one person isn’t to another. All of God’s elect have sufficient proof to believe the gospel as true.
Glad there ae people who can make themselves believe in something that has exactly zero proof attached. I just can't, never have been.
The Christian missionaries who are potentially dying in Afghanistan are dying for something that they are convinced is true, and they have sufficient proof to be convinced to die for it, particularly the testimony of the Holy Spirit that indwells them.
quote:As a Christian, I sincerely don’t want you or anyone else to go to Hell. As bad as the torture and death of people in Afghanistan are for Christians and others, they pale in comparison to the torments of Hell for eternity.
It's why religious zealots confuse the shite out of me. If hell exists, I'll find out when I die because that's where I'm headed if the good book isn't just bullshite
I hope the Lord opens the eyes of all those who reject the truth and brings them to repentance and faith, including those who are destroying people in Afghanistan right now.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:52 am to troyt37
quote:Christians can certainly use force to defend themselves, but that isn’t what I’m talking about with “justice”. We aren’t to use the sword to get revenge on our enemies. The government exists for that purpose.
I'm not good enough with the Bible to debate you, but your statement implies that Christians should not even defend themselves. I couldn't disagree more. All that does is leave the door open for the evil and murderous to slaughter their way to victory, which is what has been happening for quite a while now.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:53 am to squid_hunt
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If they can't be found it's very possible that they are beating feet right now.
That would be best case scenario right now. Too bad they didn't have the brains to blow out of there before people had to risk their lives to save them from an awful fate.
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