re: My Favorite cousin ( in law) is in Immigration limbo

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She then missed the next date (her fault)

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Sounds like she fricked up

Respectfully Chris, although I appreciate the honesty you bring to the conversation, I have to disagree.

You are conflating two separate issues. Legal immigration and illegal immigration. The woman in question arrived here legally with her family, at the behest of the US government. She is a permanent legal resident. Only a rare anomaly of her being born in the camp complicates the matter. Otherwise she would have been naturalized 8 years ago.

Had she come here illegally, I would not have started the thread. It would simply have been the case of someone breaking US law. She is in violation of no laws.

I think as a country of laws, we should demand existing laws are observed. If it takes a wall/security increase then so be it. We already have the most generous immigration laws in the world. We should continue to take people who would fill specific needs that we have. And allot a proportion for specific humanitarian events that occur, including those who assist US interests abroad.

As for concessions-here is one. We give the 800, 000 DACA a path to citizenship. This includes listening to the 70% of Americans who approve of securing the border (finally) , ending or limiting chain migration and cancelling the Visa lottery that is arbitrary and not in our best interest. Do that and we might even move that 800,000 to 1.8 million.

The US has always periodically changed our immigration laws to deal with the needs of the times. This is one of those times. Let's let those here assimilate, let's put the brakes gently on those arriving, and let America absorb them in a sensible way that serves the interests of the US.

Respek.

You are still missing it . She is a permanent legal resident . It’s already “ proven” as that is her status. So she’s clearly not “ exactly in the same boat “ as a dreamer . She came here legally and has full legal status. They came here illegally and don’t. She can’t be deported by law, they can.

Not that I’m not sympathetic to them . Just showing you where your error lies.

As for “ no one advocating for illegal immigration “ that’s demonstrably incorrect . Millions of Democrats are doing just that . Not to mention the “ immigration rights” industry which essentially lobbies for open borders and sanctuary cities.

well Trump said criminal and gang members first but as always he lies.

His agency is deporting at will. he is deporting heads of families, grandmothers, business owners...

so your cousin is fricked

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My mistake was saying "in violation of immigration law". It should have said something like " adversely effected the citizenship process". She is not in violation of the law. She's just not on the fast track for naturalization.

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That clears up a bit of the confusion for me. If she were to continue with the status quo and do nothing to solidify her citizenship, what, if any, consequence would she potentially face?

I read through most of the thread and didn't see this mentioned aside from the inability to acquire a passport.

She can't travel out of the country (big deal for her obviously), she can't vote, can't get certain jobs, she can't serve on a jury, can't hold public office, etc.

I think like most, since she's the only one in the entire extended family that is not a citizen, she wants to be one. It's important to her.

I don't think we are too far apart. I don't think the country is too far apart. But we need you to give us our wall for your 1.8 million. Compromise. Your 30% needs to acknowledge our 70%. Or sadness for DACA people ensues...