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re: Mussolini's tariffs and protectionism became Fascism
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:32 pm to More&Les
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:32 pm to More&Les
He doesn’t care about anything but how much his yearly income is. He doesn’t give two shits if China takes over every American industry and every single manufacturing job is moved to China.
He doesn’t care if we go bankrupt as a nation and China replaces us as the world’s Superpower.
He doesn’t care if we can’t afford our military and we are left defenseless to a Chinese monster.
He doesn’t care if the US turns into a globalist owned shadow of its once great self.
As long as IB’s inport business continues to pay IB a check, frick everything and everyone else.
He doesn’t care if we go bankrupt as a nation and China replaces us as the world’s Superpower.
He doesn’t care if we can’t afford our military and we are left defenseless to a Chinese monster.
He doesn’t care if the US turns into a globalist owned shadow of its once great self.
As long as IB’s inport business continues to pay IB a check, frick everything and everyone else.
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:32 pm to I B Freeman
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Mussolini's tariffs and protectionism became Fascism
You are just the worst.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:32 pm to I B Freeman
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Look I think Xi is going to give Trump something at the G20 so he can declare victory. It will be small but Trump needs a win and will take anything. He knows he can't implement the tariffs he is threatening in January and win in 2020. You all will jump and cheer and declare it a big win and say IB was idiot but at the end of the day our trade deficit will still be huge and you will see little if any change. Just my prediction.
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Just my prediction.
"Not my end of the world he will doom us all yall are all so stupid predictions...but a new more updated prediction so that my past predictions look always mostly correct."
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:33 pm to I B Freeman
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In economics, fascism was seen as a third way between laissez-faire capitalism and communism. Fascist thought acknowledged the roles of private property and the profit motive as legitimate incentives for productivity—provided that they did not
This is the best definition I have seen to describe Trumps economic policy
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:35 pm to More&Les
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you do realize those policies effect us directly, right shite head?
How do they effect you directly? Do you have an example?
How much should you pay personally for Apple to have a plant in China? for Boeing? Give me a number. Put your money where your mouth is.
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Are you really saying we should continue to let China build its nation's wealth directly at OUR expense
Our expense?? how is that?
In one statement you support government intervention on behalf of US companies wanting to build and sell into China growing the Chinese economy and in the next you whine about China's wealth?? How does that logic work?
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our wealth has been GIVEN to communist China
Given. We just mailed them a bunch of check and paper money? You understand we got capital goods in exchange for our paper currency right????
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:43 pm to I B Freeman
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I import for our manufacturing facility
thank you, this all makes alot of sense now. You gotta understand, when you cant seem to post about anything else, it looks weird. Now, not so much
I do understand what's going on with the tariffs, I assure you I have not spent as much time reading about them as you apparently have. I am not a fan of them, nor do I think that there are any long term positives to be had in a protracted trade war.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:45 pm to I B Freeman
I was your 100th upvote. my day is complete
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:45 pm to I B Freeman
IBMelting as usual not telling the whole story.
Brazil’s share of the export market is on track to keep growing in 2018 as it gears up for a crop of around 114 million tonnes, matching last year’s all-time high production.
Larger harvests mean Brazil’s marketing season, which begins in May, has started to extend into October-November rather than ending around September as is traditional. That has eaten into the period when U.S. supply has typically dominated markets.
“Soybean inventories everywhere are so large that there is nothing like U.S. marketing season or South American marketing season (any more),” said a veteran soybean trader at one of China’s state-run trading companies.
“Brazil has started harvesting new-crop beans while it is still not done selling last year’s crop.”
And Brazil’s slice of the Chinese market will likely get another boost in 2018 as restrictions imposed by Beijing on U.S. shipments from Jan. 1 bite.
China introduced the stricter import standards, which have reduced the amount of foreign matter allowed in the most widely-traded soybean variety to 1 percent from 2 percent previously, after raising concerns about weed seeds.
“They are penalizing U.S. beans,” said Roy Huckabay, an analyst with Linn & Associates, a futures brokerage in Chicago.
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Brazil’s share of the export market is on track to keep growing in 2018 as it gears up for a crop of around 114 million tonnes, matching last year’s all-time high production.
Larger harvests mean Brazil’s marketing season, which begins in May, has started to extend into October-November rather than ending around September as is traditional. That has eaten into the period when U.S. supply has typically dominated markets.
“Soybean inventories everywhere are so large that there is nothing like U.S. marketing season or South American marketing season (any more),” said a veteran soybean trader at one of China’s state-run trading companies.
“Brazil has started harvesting new-crop beans while it is still not done selling last year’s crop.”
And Brazil’s slice of the Chinese market will likely get another boost in 2018 as restrictions imposed by Beijing on U.S. shipments from Jan. 1 bite.
China introduced the stricter import standards, which have reduced the amount of foreign matter allowed in the most widely-traded soybean variety to 1 percent from 2 percent previously, after raising concerns about weed seeds.
“They are penalizing U.S. beans,” said Roy Huckabay, an analyst with Linn & Associates, a futures brokerage in Chicago.
LINK
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:47 pm to I B Freeman
Yeah that’s exactly what we’re becoming. 
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:51 pm to AlceeFortier
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so, why all of the fear mongering and lying? is that a false narrative? fear implores emotion rather than factual logic.
“hand up don’t shoot”
“if I had a son”
Etc...etc....etc....
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:06 pm to BuckyCheese
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“They are penalizing U.S. beans,” said Roy Huckabay, an analyst with Linn & Associates, a futures brokerage in Chicago.
What in your post dispels the conclusion I made that somebody is getting US soybean markets share on world markets???
Right there in that sentence is what I am telling you.
Retaliatory tariffs and standard changes are predictable reactions to Trump's policies.
But you will get farm welfare.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:10 pm to I B Freeman
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How do they effect you directly? Do you have an example?
We send American made car to China, China charges a tariff, American company sells fewer cars, less profit, less jobs for American workers.
Also, Chinese officials use money paid in tariffs to subsidize Chinese companies, our companies can't compete, less jobs for American workers.
Yes, we have straight up given China trillions of dollars of our wealth for little in return...
You are a giant fricking idiot if you cant see that
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:12 pm to The Maj
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lmao, I am thinking you are a functional retard... either that or you suffered brain damage at some point in your life...
Asperger’s. He’s textbook.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:23 pm to More&Les
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We send American made car to China, China charges a tariff, American company sells fewer cars, less profit, less jobs for American workers.
Except that is not what this is about. This is about American car companies, for example, getting to build plants in China without Chinese partners.
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Also, Chinese officials use money paid in tariffs to subsidize Chinese companies, our companies can't compete, less jobs for American workers.
They get very few little revenue from imports from the USA. Just a fact.
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Yes, we have straight up given China trillions of dollars of our wealth for little in return...
Do you not understand that we paid for goods from China?? We buy a tremendous amount of intermediate and finished goods that go into US manufactured goods. You do know this why every US car manufacturer opposes these tariffs? These are capital goods. Good comprised of their goods and capital and not ours. It frees up our labor and capital for higher value goods. This why our economy has grown so much. Is it your opinion that China and the US cannot both grow?? that economic production is all win or lose and not net gains for both traders?
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:16 pm to I B Freeman
Meanwhile if the January tariffs are imposed US consumers will pay between $1400 and $7000 more for new cars.
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:31 pm to I B Freeman
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Our economy has grown more in the last 30 years than it did the 250 years previous combined.
I wonder if the tech boom had ANYTHING to do with that at all? It amazes me that you can actually use the last three decades, and how they relate to trade, as a barometer...and yet TOTALLY discount the massive advances that have been made concerning technology. Unbelievable.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:33 pm to upgrayedd
Rabble Rabble China is our friend Rabble Rabble.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:36 pm to jimmy the leg
I didn't discount them at all.
We are free to pursue higher value products and new technology because are scientists are not making steel and Christmas lights and such.
We are free to pursue higher value products and new technology because are scientists are not making steel and Christmas lights and such.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:55 pm to I B Freeman
Yet, the left is the one silencing speech.
The left is using THREAT OF FORCE to do so.
What is the LITERAL definition of fascism again?
Oh yeah - my first two sentences..............................................................................................
The left is using THREAT OF FORCE to do so.
What is the LITERAL definition of fascism again?
Oh yeah - my first two sentences..............................................................................................
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:55 pm to I B Freeman
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So if you are Trumpkin and are offended when someone is concerned if we are moving toward some hybrid fascism then you probably need to study why someone would have that concern and not just sky stream about "Cucks" and "melts".
Nobody that calls Trump fascist is doing so because of an in depth study of his economic policy.
Anyways Trumps tariffs are being used as leverage. Italy did not have a position of strength then. We are the worlds top economy and have all the leverage. The end goal is better free trade deals that don’t move all of our production overseas and steal our intellectual property. I don’t think Trump wants tariffs to be permanent policy
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