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re: Muh Dow is slowly losing all the gains it made since November
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:06 pm to weagle99
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:06 pm to weagle99
More good news of long term economic recovery.
The Fed is about to get more aggressive, and 'collateral damage' may ensue
Jeff Cox | @JeffCoxCNBCcom
Published 2:03 PM ET Mon, 30 April 2018 Updated 2:50 PM ET Mon, 30 April 2018
long-dormant inflation rises and the Fed finds itself behind the curve after years of loose monetary policy. The central bank then has to move more quickly than the market anticipates, putting pressure on both stock and bond prices, which move inversely to yields.
The Fed is about to get more aggressive, and 'collateral damage' may ensue
Jeff Cox | @JeffCoxCNBCcom
Published 2:03 PM ET Mon, 30 April 2018 Updated 2:50 PM ET Mon, 30 April 2018
long-dormant inflation rises and the Fed finds itself behind the curve after years of loose monetary policy. The central bank then has to move more quickly than the market anticipates, putting pressure on both stock and bond prices, which move inversely to yields.
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:09 pm to 90proofprofessional
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90proofprofessional
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:12 pm to gthog61
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You said they "started in 2015"
an objective fact. in the background is another objective fact, that the timeline of that hike and the intention of others following had been signaled by the Fed for months
the number of increases doesn't matter, and neither does their relative magnitude. what matters is simply whether the rate is too high or too low for the fed's purposes, such that it drives us toward inflation above target or not
what the fed is supposed to do is not discretionary. the fact that there have been 4 more could just as easily be a signal that rates have been too low, making borrowing for cap inv slightly cheaper and therefore slightly more profitable than it should be, which would mean we were artificially inflating asset prices in the months between those hikes
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:15 pm to LSURussian
why would i be mad? and what could i possibly have said that would make me seem angry compared to what gthog has said here 
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:15 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
an objective fact.
Another objective fact is that Trump has presided over a 28% run-up in the markets against the headwinds of continued and consistent raising of the FED rate.
MAGA
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:17 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
an objective fact. in the background is another objective fact, that the timeline of that hike and the intention of others following had been signaled by the Fed for months
the number of increases doesn't matter, and neither does their relative magnitude. what matters is simply whether the rate is too high or too low for the fed's purposes, such that it drives us toward inflation above target or not
what the fed is supposed to do is not discretionary. the fact that there have been 4 more could just as easily be a signal that rates have been too low, making borrowing for cap inv slightly cheaper and therefore slightly more profitable than it should be, which would mean we were artificially inflating asset prices in the months between those hikes
blah blah blah
Where was that post you made when the 4th qtr GDP got revised upward so much? You sure did have every since burp about it up until then.
You only post shite that fits one side. You are the economic Toddy.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:18 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
yes that is an objective fact as well
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:20 pm to 90proofprofessional
Omg the stock market goes up and down. Never thought this would happen
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:21 pm to gthog61
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Where was that post you made when the 4th qtr GDP got revised upward so much?
why do you keep asking this? i've answered it several times now
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You only post shite that fits one side.
You seem dumber and dumber with each post.
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You sure did have every since burp about it up until then.
Same response for this gibberish. You seem dumber and dumber with each post. Although in your defense you may be 90-rage-typing, hindering the coherence of your posts.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:22 pm to weagle99
Interest rate increases.
As for today, the drop was pre 1Q earnings releases jitters, which recovered.
The "big drop" in February was probably more a needed correction than anything else, since the election of Trump was like throwing a little gasoline on our economic fire.
As for today, the drop was pre 1Q earnings releases jitters, which recovered.
The "big drop" in February was probably more a needed correction than anything else, since the election of Trump was like throwing a little gasoline on our economic fire.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:22 pm to gthog61
quote:He actually provided you with a link to his post and quote the last time you made this same point for the umpteenth time.
Where was that post you made when the 4th qtr GDP got revised upward so much?
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:23 pm to 90proofprofessional
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what could i possibly have said that would make me seem angry
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so you look even dumber and more pitiful than usual
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:27 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Lol. He’s the guy you are going to call out as angry?
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:27 pm to LSURussian
oh, that's just how i talk to dumb and pitiful people, i guess.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:31 pm to weagle99
Expected interest rate hikes, the strength of the dollar, and inflation picking up.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:31 pm to buckeye_vol
hey buckeye, you think i should bother with a Q2 GDP thread?
atl fed is calling 4.1% to kick it off. i think WSJ & NY fed are saying 3.2
atl fed is calling 4.1% to kick it off. i think WSJ & NY fed are saying 3.2
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:32 pm to weagle99
quote:You misread the charts?
Gradual downward trend since the big drop to start the year.
What is happening vlads?
We are up slightly since the February nadir.
Trump's election drove the markets. Markets were expecting Hillary, and a continuation of obamanomics. Markets were expecting the same tepid economy obamanomics produced. A recession was anticipated in 2017.
Trump as POTUS was unexpected. In stead of puttering along, S&P PE ratios skyrocketed, hovering a little above 25 by December'17.
Over the past three decades, S&P PE's never reached >25 without an associated deep correction or a full-blown recession.
So w/o tax reform, markets were overvalued.
However, tax reform was a game changer.
So instead of an associated deep correction or a full-blown recession simply delayed until 2018, the markets are now puttering along as would have been the case at 30% lower valuation under Hillary. Predictions are for a 2018 trading range capped in current 2018 perimeters. Given recent earning reports I'm not sure we don't top out those predictions.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:34 pm to NC_Tigah
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A recession was anticipated in 2017.
wat
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:41 pm to Jorts R Us
Yes. Feel free to call anyone else out as angry....
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:45 pm to LSURussian
Nah. Not my fight and I don’t cater to one side.
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