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re: Muellers thugs broke in and “felt up Mrs. Manafort lying in bed to see if she had guns”
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:17 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:17 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Allege?
You're claiming predawn, no-knock, home raids did not occur?
The purpose is intimidation, and provocation if possible.
No. It occurred. My reference was that you alleged it had a non-evidentiary purpose.
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:20 am to NC_Tigah
I remember that Chappelle’s Show sketch:
“Then after subduing the animal, his wife put her titties in my hand, it was the weirdest thing.”
“You grabbed her titties! I saw you!”
“Then after subduing the animal, his wife put her titties in my hand, it was the weirdest thing.”
“You grabbed her titties! I saw you!”
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:24 am to AUbused
quote:
Words cannot express how deeply troubled I am to hear of this inexcusable treatment of such fine, upstanding people as the Manaforts.
Then you feel the same way about the other criminals that the police “handle roughly”?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:25 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
NC's hackism grows the older he gets.
Believe that had this raid happened at the Podesta home, he'd be arguing with any person, who would be uninformed enough to do exactly what he is doing now, about how wrong they are.
ANd you would be arguing the other side, so shut the frick up.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:33 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Loretta Lynch says she met Bill Clinton to talk about grandkids. That may even be true. But both parties involved knew damn good and well what the real game was. You'd never see either acknowledging the real reason for their actions.
I'm not sure how you are having a difficult time understanding this. There is an actual court document out there where a judge has said " I believe the FBI is correct that there are documents relevant to the case that Manafort will destroy if he has advanced warning "
quote:Does the warrant ever say that?
Oh as a criminal investigator there is a distinct advantage to bullying suspects and witnesses alike
Is "bullying" ever a cited rationale?
Ever?
Even once in US history?
No?
Yet we know it occurs with regularity.
So either Judges are too stupid to understand the Nature-of-the-Beast when they sign off on sanitized warrants, or they are complicit.
It is my understanding Judges at this level are not stupid folks.
If you still honestly contend the main reason for a predawn, no-knock, assault-style, home invasion by 12 armed brown-shirts was simply that it was the safest, most expedient way to guarantee Manafort would not destroy documents, I seriously don't know WTF to tell you.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:39 am to JuiceTerry
quote:And you'd be 100% wrong.
Believe that had this raid happened at the Podesta home, he'd be arguing with any person, who would be uninformed enough to do exactly what he is doing now, about how wrong they are.
I've noted my distain for predawn perp walks here many times.
If the SOBs do this to Podesta, Hillary, or anyone else, my opinion will be the same.
It's abuse regardless.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:39 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
NC_Tigah
You're an idiot. You truly are.
Let me try again
The question was asked
"why did the judge approve a no knock warrant?"
I answered "the judge agreed that there were documents that Manafort might destroy if he had warning"
I didn't say I believe that was the real reason, I merely answered the question.
Moron
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:44 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
The question was asked
"why did the judge approve a no knock warrant?"
I answered . . .
I didn't say I believe that was the real reason
And you call me a moron.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:53 am to thelawnwranglers
"they felt her up over 10y old tax bill?"
I hear Al Sharpton owes a bunch of taxes where is his early morning visit?
I hear Al Sharpton owes a bunch of taxes where is his early morning visit?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:24 pm to Revelator
quote:
Kicking down someone's door in the dead of night over a tax fraud issue?!
would you have preferred it happen during normal business hours. GTFOH
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:32 pm to NC_Tigah
It was a shakedown and a completely unnecessary one. They had already obtained all of the evidence they needed in the form of bank records.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:46 pm to LSU Patrick
Why does everyone here believe that there was inappropriate contact?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:47 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
And you call me a moron.
You and logic really aren't on a first name basis are you.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:09 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Abuse of what?
It's abuse regardless.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:17 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:Seems these episodes now happen so often that several nitwits here have completely normalized them.
It was a shakedown and a completely unnecessary one
They excuse such raids as no big deal. The mere accusation of a crime is now apparently viewed as enabling, and in fact justifying, of an assault on one's wife. Several posters here are even cheering that paradigm.
One fellow intimates any assault of family members which may have coincidently occurred is a-okay, as long as the warrant was written in a way so as to technically enable it.
Really unbelievable!
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:30 pm to NC_Tigah
Things conservatives don’t want to talk about right now
Laundering Russian organize crime money for 200 Alex
Laundering Russian organize crime money for 200 Alex
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:33 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Seems these episodes now happen so often that several nitwits here have completely normalized them.
They excuse such raids as no big deal. The mere accusation of a crime is now apparently viewed as enabling, and in fact justifying, of an assault on one's wife. Several posters here are even cheering that paradigm.
One fellow intimates any assault of family members which may have coincidently occurred is a-okay, as long as the warrant was written in a way so as to technically enable it.
Really unbelievable!
You are well past the point where shutting up would have been your best option.
The question was "why did this judge sign off on a no knock warrant?" Answering that question in noway intimates ANYTHING. It merely points out a truth.
Also, the no knock warrant could have been served without even touching the wife, so even if a person was okay with the no knock warrant logic dictates that it is not necessarily true that that person is also okay with the wife being touched.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:27 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
They excuse such raids as no big deal. The mere accusation of a crime is now apparently viewed as enabling, and in fact justifying, of an assault on one's wife. Several posters here are even cheering that paradigm.
Which never happened. Reminds me of the hands up don't shoot lie.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:32 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
I'm not going to wade in on the discussion about the warrant other to say that it is curious that the sides have switched positions on this. The law and order folks are gripping about the search and how it was done, and the police brutality folks are defending the warrant and those who executed it.
Other than that, I think it should be pointed out that the source for the story was anonymous. And even more, it appears that the source for the description of the frisk of Ms. Manafort, didn't seem as though he/she was at the scene.
Whether the frisk source was at the scene or not, I think that part of the story is called into serious question simply by his/her description of the frisk as: they "felt Ms. Manafort up".
Other than that, I think it should be pointed out that the source for the story was anonymous. And even more, it appears that the source for the description of the frisk of Ms. Manafort, didn't seem as though he/she was at the scene.
Whether the frisk source was at the scene or not, I think that part of the story is called into serious question simply by his/her description of the frisk as: they "felt Ms. Manafort up".
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:41 pm to NC_Tigah
Where was this first reported? The Washington Times seems a tad iffy on the origin of this. I'm smelling a rat. In addition to Paul Manafort that is.
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