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re: Muellers thugs broke in and “felt up Mrs. Manafort lying in bed to see if she had guns”

Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:52 am to
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It was approved to justify a thuggish home raid, scaring hell out of the occupants, and gain ability to either physically embarrass/abuse occupants including wives/children present or worse.

Stop. You’re clearly just making up stuff.

What possible benefit or advantage would what you allege as the purpose actually serve?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:55 am to
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Of course you don't, because no federal grand jury was ever empaneled, even though the fricking Director of the FBI said on national TV "she did break the law" and if you are too stupid to understand that Comey did say Hillary broke the law, but that no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, he did NOT say Hillary didn't break the law, then don't even bother responding.

I broke the law today. Glancing out th window right now, I can see pedestrians breaking the law as we speak. Oh noz! We must all be getting special treatment due to our connections.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:56 am to
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You are not very smart are you?
Smart enough to recognize those filing search warrants freely lie about real reasons for necessity of predawn, dramatic, perp-walk producing home raids. Are you so stupid as to think the public doesn't realize that? Are you seriously that effing dumb?

No?

Then cut the act!
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:56 am to
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What possible benefit or advantage would what you allege as the purpose actually serve?


Oh as a criminal investigator there is a distinct advantage to bullying suspects and witnesses alike, that's a fact. But judges have a different role, and they do not approve of warrants so that suspects and witnesses can be bullied.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:58 am to
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Ankle bracelets? He's a huge flight risk


Never heard this before but ok. As long as they are not playing it all up for a future jury pool I guess it all seems 100% legit.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:58 am to
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You are not very smart are you?

In his defense, I think NC_Tigah is very smart. His post history shows a consistent high level of intelligence.

But it’s a complete head scratcher as to why he’s going off the deep end on this issue.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:59 am to
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What possible benefit or advantage would what you allege as the purpose actually serve?
Allege?
You're claiming predawn, no-knock, home raids did not occur?

The purpose is intimidation, and provocation if possible.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:00 am to
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You are not very smart are you?
NC’s actually a really smart guy. I think he smokes a lot of medical maryjane in the morning, though.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:02 am to
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But it’s a complete head scratcher as to why he’s going off the deep end on this issue.
Because the predawn, perp-walk, mugshot publication, guilty-until-proven-innocent, pretrial prosecution crap pisses me off.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:03 am to
Not that there is any thing wrong with that
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:04 am to
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Oh as a criminal investigator there is a distinct advantage to bullying suspects and witnesses alike
NO KIDDING!
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:05 am to
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Smart enough to recognize those filing search warrants freely lie about real reasons for necessity of predawn, dramatic, perp-walk producing home raids. Are you so stupid as to think the public doesn't realize that? Are you seriously that effing dumb?

No?

Then cut the act!


WTF?

I will REITERATE (that means say it again) the question was asked, why did a judge approve a pre dawn no knock warrant? I answered "The FBI justified to the judge that there were materials that Manafort would destroy if he had advanced warning" so the judge approved the no knock warrant.

Now whether that was the real reason or not, we don't actually know, your guesses are just that , guesses, but it is a matter of RECORD that the judge approved the warrant because of reason I explained about 20 times now.

As I've said in other threads on the matter, there are certainly judges that prosecutors learn to go to or not to go to for such things because some are more easily convinced than others, but that isn't relevant to the question that was asked "Why did the judge approve of the fricking warrant?"

I'm not sure how you are having a difficult time understanding this. There is an actual court document out there where a judge has said " I believe the FBI is correct that there are documents relevant to the case that Manafort will destroy if he has advanced warning "
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:06 am to
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The purpose is intimidation, and provocation if possible.


The purpose of the story is to discredit the Mueller investigation in the eyes of the public in order to stiffen the spines of Republicans in Congress should Trump fire Mueller or Mueller name Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:10 am to
Russian story
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:10 am to
NC's hackism grows the older he gets.
Believe that had this raid happened at the Podesta home, he'd be arguing with any person, who would be uninformed enough to do exactly what he is doing now, about how wrong they are.
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:13 am to
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Muellers thugs broke in and “felt up Mrs. Manafort lying in bed to see if she had guns”


Congrats on helping Russian trolls spread fake news.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:13 am to
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Russian story


Yes, I'd imagine the Russians want to discredit the Mueller investigation too.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:14 am to
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Russian trolls


righty o
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:14 am to
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Oh as a criminal investigator there is a distinct advantage to bullying suspects and witnesses alike, that's a fact.

We’re talking about it occurring at the scene of a search warrant, right? That’s unnecessary escalation which is counterproductive to successfully executing a search warrant safely/successfully. You don’t want evidence gathering to become tainted by the kind of a scene that unnecessary escalation can create.
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