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MSM on Iran
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:40 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:40 am
MSM is reporting that there are fears of a return to full scale conflict with Iran. First off there would have to be a full scale conflict for there to be a fear of it. For there to be full scale conflict both sides need to be engaged. We have been kicking their arse and they have been taking it.
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:10 am to MikkUGA
We have never been involved in a full scale war with iran.
How can we return to something that has never been?
How can we return to something that has never been?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:37 am to thetempleowl
it is interesting to me that this war is really iran vs israel. yet iran seems to be hitting only usa assets now. why aren't they hitting israel?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:39 am to MikkUGA
In a war, don't both sides have militaries? Are you saying Iran has a military?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:42 am to texas tortilla
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yet iran seems to be hitting only usa assets now. why aren't they hitting israel?
You know why Iran is not hitting Israel.
Thinking on this a bit....If we go after power plants that are linked to weapons production or military links, hit all roads and railroads that could possibly bring weapons and ammunition to Iran, anything linked with military so we have recourse to the screams of war crimes, we'll be turning Iran into a piddling small time terrorist bunch that can only onesy-twosy strikes on a ship now and then. They be so busy trying to survive they'll become like Al-Shabaab or Boko Haram.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 7:49 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:45 am to MikkUGA
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MSM is reporting that there are fears of a return to full scale conflict with Iran. First off there would have to be a full scale conflict for there to be a fear of it.
I wish we were in a full scale conflict with Iran.
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For there to be full scale conflict both sides need to be engaged. We have been kicking their arse and they have been taking it.
What war have you been watching. We’ve accomplished none of our goals with the war. Practically speaking, Iran has been winning so far.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:11 am to Timeoday
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In a war, don't both sides have militaries? Are you saying Iran has a military?
How is Iran affecting traffic through the Strait if they have no military? How are they rocketing American bases? How did they cause Trump to switch his travel methods?
This talking point, that Iran’s military has been completely destroyed, is just another version of “This is not a war”.
We are at war with Iran, and we have thus far been unable to neutralize their military. These are the facts.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 8:12 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:26 am to Penrod
POTUS Trump should set up a program where the Strait must remain open and the cost of ANY AND ALL damages* inflicted upon shipping by Iran will be 100% covered by IRANIAN IMPOUNDED FUNDS. This would stiffen the spines of the shipping insurers and reinsurers. And IRANIANS UNDERSTAND MONEY, do not want to lose it and will punish (i.e., kill) those who cause the loss. And the ones causing the loss are the IRGC.
I’m posting this in every thread where the absence of such MONETARY DAMAGES ASSESSMENT is partially responsible for the situation.
And, yes, we could both bomb Iran (and/or take other actions) and do this at the same time. But right now it appears the USA is just "toying" with them and testing new tech in a live environment.
* “ALL damages” INCLUDES the cost of cargo, the cost to repair/replace the ship, the “opportunity cost” (revenues/profits the ship could have made during the time the ship is out of action), losses suffered by the crew members (and.or their families) who are injured or killed
I’m posting this in every thread where the absence of such MONETARY DAMAGES ASSESSMENT is partially responsible for the situation.
And, yes, we could both bomb Iran (and/or take other actions) and do this at the same time. But right now it appears the USA is just "toying" with them and testing new tech in a live environment.
* “ALL damages” INCLUDES the cost of cargo, the cost to repair/replace the ship, the “opportunity cost” (revenues/profits the ship could have made during the time the ship is out of action), losses suffered by the crew members (and.or their families) who are injured or killed
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:35 am to thetempleowl
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We have never been involved in a full scale war with iran. How can we return to something that has never been?
This board claims that we’ve been at war with Iran since the 70s and that Trump was just the only one brave enough to do something about it.
It’s an interesting dichotomy created by yall
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:47 am to Timeoday
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And, yes, we could both bomb Iran (and/or take other actions) and do this at the same time. But right now it appears the USA is just "toying" with them and testing new tech in a live environment.
I don’t believe Trump is risking a midterm reversal so we can test tech. I think there is a simpler, more likely explanation, and that is the basic incompetence of government that is ubiquitous.
Our military, despite our pride in its awesome abilities, is part of the government. Therefore, it is incompetent and only succeeds via massive asymmetry and the fact that it is fighting against other militaries that are likewise incompetent.
We probably have the tech to defeat the Iranian drones and small boats; we were just too incompetent to think it through and prepare properly. I bet that the lessons we learned in the first go-around will result in procurement and deployment of the right stuff to smoke these fuggers out and neutralize them.
As far as your idea of using Iranian funds (the same idea is being kicked around for Russian funds), it is really a toothless gesture. At the end of the day there will be a truce and treaty. The terms of those will determine what happens with those confiscated funds. And those terms will be determined by the relative strength of the two sides at the time of the deal. So if we give away their overseas money but we haven’t decisively defeated them, we will just have to make good on that money from our treasury. That’s why that method isn’t usually used.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:59 am to Penrod
I think Trump wanted to give diplomacy every chance to avoid any criticism to the contrary. Now it’s painfully obvious that the psychomullahs will NOT seriously engage in diplomacy…..EVER.
It’s going to be total military operation from this point on.
It Will Be Glorious!!
It’s going to be total military operation from this point on.
It Will Be Glorious!!
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:01 am to MikkUGA
If you listen to MSM, we're running scared of Iran.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:14 am to MikkUGA
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MSM is reporting that there are fears of a return to full scale conflict with Iran.
If we had been in a full scale conflict with Iran it would already be over...
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:13 am to B747Tiger
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Practically speaking, Iran has been winning so far.
This is the dumbest talking point to come out of this conflict.
Iran lost 2, likely 3, supreme leaders. They lost dozens of IRGC officers. Their army, navy, and airforce is practically nonexistent. Their economy has been ruined.
But Iran is winning, guys.
This is as stupid as saying that Troy is beating Alabama because they scored a touchdown when down by 42.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:15 am to B747Tiger
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Practically speaking, Iran has been winning so far.
Yeah, I go to bed every night afraid the Iranian navy is going to enter the gulf and blow up south Louisiana.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:19 am to Adam Banks
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We have never been involved in a full scale war with iran. How can we return to something that has never been?
This board claims that we’ve been at war with Iran since the 70s and that Trump was just the only one brave enough to do something about it.
It’s an interesting dichotomy created by yall
It's not nearly as interesting as adults not understanding the meaning of full scale war. Well, more retarded than interesting, really.
They say truth is the first casualty of war, but I think intelligence is giving it a run for its money.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:23 am to MikkUGA
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MSM is reporting that there are fears of a return to full scale conflict with Iran. First off there would have to be a full scale conflict for there to be a fear of it. For there to be full scale conflict both sides need to be engaged. We have been kicking their arse and they have been taking it.
1. You don't need anything to be afraid of it.
2. Who exactly is afraid of it? The IRGC?
3. I am more afraid of a half arse conflict. Because a half arse conflict means we don't do it right. If you are going to go to war. You should be in it to win it.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:26 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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This is the dumbest talking point to come out of this conflict. Iran lost 2, likely 3, supreme leaders. They lost dozens of IRGC officers. Their army, navy, and airforce is practically nonexistent. Their economy has been ruined. But Iran is winning, guys. This is as stupid as saying that Troy is beating Alabama because they scored a touchdown when down by 42.
Iran has proven they’re willing and able to shut down the strait whenever they want. The Islamic regime is still in charge and Hezbollah and the Houthis are still attacking Iran’s enemies in the region.
Until we destroy the proxies permanently and take physical control of the strait of Hormuz then it’s going in the L column.
Our military kicked the ever living shite out of North Vietnam on a daily basis and we still lost that war.
Anyone who’s saying we’re winning by regurgitating the stupid talking point that we’ve destroyed their navy and Air Force is retarded. Like go sit in the corner with your bicycle helmet while you play with crayons retarded.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:29 am to Timeoday
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I think Trump wanted to give diplomacy every chance to avoid any criticism to the contrary. Now it’s painfully obvious that the psychomullahs will NOT seriously engage in diplomacy…..EVER.
It's blatantly obvious Trump is trying to be diplomatic, but once someone disagrees with Trump, then something inside changes and forces them to be dishonest and permanently negative about everything that happens from that point forward.
It's fascinating behavior.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:30 am to MikkUGA
They are for whichever action Trump takes that helps the Dems take control of the House and Senate. They don't care about deaths. They can no longer be trusted.
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