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MSM cannot call it what it is - Rape
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:33 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:33 am
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Here is why Political Correctness is both stupid, and dangerous. It is so scared to offend the wrong people that it is full of inuendo, and euphemism that has the ability to hide truly dangerous conduct.
Forced sexual intercourse is not "sexual assault." Sexual assault is putting somebody else in fear that you would rape them. Assault is fear of battery. Rape WORSE. Rape is the actual battery. Rape is actual forced sexual intercourse. Rape is a violent felony that has nothing to do with sex. Rape is committed by sociopaths who think sex is a way to exercise power over their victim.
If someone forces you by duress (fear of losing job/career) to have sex with them after you locked a door - and the attack was so awful you passed out and you have to seek medical attention after - that is rape. That is NOT sexual harassment. That is a step beyond.
The PC Culture is so full of stupid euphemisms - it has stopped calling things what they are. This is just one example. It's just as bad as the people who were scared to call the cops on the San Bernadino Terrorists - because they didn't want to offend them.
Worse - is the double standard by which this bullshite, dangerous language applies. If Bill O'Reilly had done this - it would be called what it is. Rape.
That note the nurse would have made as a medical record, is called direct evidence of a rape. The assistant who found her passed out is called a witness to a rape.
The entire news media in an effort to bring down their political opponents has used words like "sexual misconduct" to describe actions of men ranging from words making women feel uncomfortable - to Matt Lauer or Harvey Weinstein overpowering women and forcing them to have sex with them. They have equated actual felonious rape (a violent act) with words they find offensive.
Call it what it is news media. This is why nobody takes you seriously. This is why you truly truly suck.
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She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse. NYT describes a rape as "sexual assault:
Here is why Political Correctness is both stupid, and dangerous. It is so scared to offend the wrong people that it is full of inuendo, and euphemism that has the ability to hide truly dangerous conduct.
Forced sexual intercourse is not "sexual assault." Sexual assault is putting somebody else in fear that you would rape them. Assault is fear of battery. Rape WORSE. Rape is the actual battery. Rape is actual forced sexual intercourse. Rape is a violent felony that has nothing to do with sex. Rape is committed by sociopaths who think sex is a way to exercise power over their victim.
If someone forces you by duress (fear of losing job/career) to have sex with them after you locked a door - and the attack was so awful you passed out and you have to seek medical attention after - that is rape. That is NOT sexual harassment. That is a step beyond.
The PC Culture is so full of stupid euphemisms - it has stopped calling things what they are. This is just one example. It's just as bad as the people who were scared to call the cops on the San Bernadino Terrorists - because they didn't want to offend them.
Worse - is the double standard by which this bullshite, dangerous language applies. If Bill O'Reilly had done this - it would be called what it is. Rape.
That note the nurse would have made as a medical record, is called direct evidence of a rape. The assistant who found her passed out is called a witness to a rape.
The entire news media in an effort to bring down their political opponents has used words like "sexual misconduct" to describe actions of men ranging from words making women feel uncomfortable - to Matt Lauer or Harvey Weinstein overpowering women and forcing them to have sex with them. They have equated actual felonious rape (a violent act) with words they find offensive.
Call it what it is news media. This is why nobody takes you seriously. This is why you truly truly suck.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 8:32 am
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:34 am to Wednesday
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by Wednesday
Today is thursday
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:36 am to Wednesday
The word “rape” is going to be like “racist” soon if we use it for everything. Going to eventually mean nothing.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:36 am to Wednesday
I that looks like "rape" rape to me
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:54 am to ell_13
Exactly the danger. Been the danger of publicizing unsupported allegations all along bc these assholes want to believe them. They water down claims of actual victims.
PLUS. I’d totally forgotten that Jeff Zucker would have been Lauer’s boss at the time.
He’s next. And probably complicit.
PLUS. I’d totally forgotten that Jeff Zucker would have been Lauer’s boss at the time.
He’s next. And probably complicit.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:59 am to Wednesday
quote:Interesting. I was thinking if she went to a "company" nurse then who swept this under the rug? If Zucker was who ordered that, he is definitely next. Facilitating rape culture because it's your star doing the raping isn't a good look.
PLUS. I’d totally forgotten that Jeff Zucker would have been Lauer’s boss at the time.
He’s next. And probably complicit
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:00 am to Wednesday
Pretty bad, and it wasn't even the incident at Sochi Olympics that got him fired.
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She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:02 am to Wednesday
quote:There are suspiciously missing elements in her description. Frankly the incident sounds consensual. Unless the woman was drugged or inebriated, the episode as described was not rape.
Rape is the actual battery.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:05 am to Wednesday
OP deserves a medal. This is spot on.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:08 am to NC_Tigah
How do you know she wasn’t drugged - or physically overpowered.
How does consensual sex cause someone to lose consciousness? Striking someone over the head? Can lose consciousness. Strangling someone? Can lose consciousness. Drugging someone? Can lose conciousness.
Really good sex that you want to have? Not sure that’s a side effect.
How does consensual sex cause someone to lose consciousness? Striking someone over the head? Can lose consciousness. Strangling someone? Can lose consciousness. Drugging someone? Can lose conciousness.
Really good sex that you want to have? Not sure that’s a side effect.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:18 am to Wednesday
It MIGHT have been Rape. It LOOKS like rape (if it was consensual, why is it even being reported?).
But rape has a certain definition, both in casual conversation and legally.
The article doesn’t use words like “made me pull down my pants”, “forced me to the chair”, “kept me from leaving”, or any other words that you would expect in a rape allegation. It’s strange.
But rape has a certain definition, both in casual conversation and legally.
The article doesn’t use words like “made me pull down my pants”, “forced me to the chair”, “kept me from leaving”, or any other words that you would expect in a rape allegation. It’s strange.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:20 am to NC_Tigah
And morevover. Under Louisiana Law, as most states duress vitiates consent (meaning it makes it impossible to eliminate it). The threat need not be fear of violent retribution. The threat can be: say no, I will humiliate you and ruin your life. Which is apparently how Bill Clinton gets laid.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:20 am to Wednesday
The fact that her “becoming unconscious” is not explained is a huge omission, one of many omissions. Why the omission?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:22 am to Wednesday
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How do you know she wasn’t drugged - or physically overpowered.
Innocent until proven guilty?
You do not assume and then take as fact things that are not proven. That is dangerous as frick.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:24 am to Wednesday
Here’s another omission - were her pants still down and she still unconscious when the secretary came and got her and brought her to the nurse? In other words, what did Lauer say to the secretary? Did the secretary interpret this scene as the aftermath of a sexcapade, or what? Maybe this was a common occurrence?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:27 am to Wednesday
They would be calling it rape if it were a conservative journalist...
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:43 am to Breesus
Right. Then call it an alleged RAPE. Don’t call it alleged sexual misconduct.
As I have stated. There is a danger of conflating the two.
Why in the world did she lose consciousness?
As I have stated. There is a danger of conflating the two.
Why in the world did she lose consciousness?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:26 am to Wednesday
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Unless the woman was drugged or inebriated, the episode as described was not rape.
quote:I don't!
How do you know she wasn’t drugged
That is why I posted the caveat.
quote:Bent over a chair? Well, let me help you. Yes, that can cause syncope.
Really good sex that you want to have? Not sure that’s a side effect.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:28 am to Wednesday
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The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse
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The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.
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The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.
Doesn't really scream "rape" to me.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:30 am to Wednesday
quote:"Unbutton your blouse".
Under Louisiana Law, as most states duress vitiates consent
"Oh, okay Matt . . . here you go."
Is that really duress in Louisiana?
Seriously?
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