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re: Mother charged for granting eleven year old's request to stay in car
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:44 pm to TT9
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:44 pm to TT9
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Good, she should be charged.
Jesus Chist, this nation has turned into a bunch of pussies. My mom left me and my sister in the car all the time, and just left us the keys to stay cool.
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:45 pm to TT9
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I would personally make the kid go with me. Too many creeps out there these days.
Actually, on the contrary. They're much lower than when you were a kid.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:46 pm to OMLandshark
I already put the stats in the thread and he ignored them. 
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:49 pm to OMLandshark
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I would personally make the kid go with me. Too many creeps out there these days.
Actually, on the contrary. They're much lower than when you were a kid.
Only feels. No reals allowed!
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:53 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I know it is a childish thing to do to have elemants that are similar in two cases nd whine "why do THEY get to do it?"
That is what has led to Zero Tolerance horseshite.
We cannot use JUDGEMENT. We have to have a "rule" and ALL cases are the same.
childish silliness
This is the absolute best post in the entire topic!
As a LEO, of course I believe in being a "Nation of Laws". The problem with that (as you pointed out) is that some individuals can not apply common sense and judgment to the law.
I also believe that there are ENTIRELY TOO MANY LAWS, but that is a different discussion.
As much as I love law enforcement (because the vast majority of LEOs are good people that want to do the right thing), the situations like in the OP have become a drain. Also the fact that people absolutely refuse to even attempt to solve their own problems (esp civil matters) has become a debilitating force in society. People call law enforcement for situations that could be easily solved by just speaking to the other individual.
I guess I veered a little off topic
but my point is similar. Unfortunately the career that I love is conflicting with my beliefs. 
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:54 pm to TT9
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I'm talking more about neglect than the heat. Especially parked at a pharmacy.
Yeah, because when I see crimes, robberies, murders, and kidnappings, it's always outside of Walgreens.
Are you really stupid enough that you want a grand of your taxpaying money to go to this menial bullshite? Because this isn't exactly free. There's the appeals process, judges, attorneys, cops, etc, all of which are going to have to waste hours of their time on petty ridiculous bullshite no one would have batted an eye over 10 years ago.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:56 pm to jclem11
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So you are worried about a statistically remote event? And this worry is so great you think the state should get involved?
Seriously, the chances of the kid getting kidnapped are much lower than the kid being killed on the car ride on the way home. So is putting a kid in that kind of danger worth it? I guess she's a terrible parent driving her kid around with all those drag racing teenagers driving down the street.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 8:56 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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substantial risk
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substantial risk
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substantial risk
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:01 pm to TT9
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Especially parked at a pharmacy.
Better off going inside where all the sick people are; the ones getting medications for their infectious diseases.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:02 pm to OMLandshark
Did you know that the number of children kidnapped by strangers yearly is ~100?
Yes. 100. People are afraid of a statistic that states 100/75,000,000 will be kidnapped in a year.
It's lunacy.
Yes. 100. People are afraid of a statistic that states 100/75,000,000 will be kidnapped in a year.
It's lunacy.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:04 pm to TT9
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'll stand with the cops on this, if it comes out later that she was just in there for a minute or two, I'll change my tune.
it does not matter that the mother did not put the child in harms way. What matters is that an toddler that was trapped inside a car died recently and now the police know how to parent better than parents do.
This is a crazy crazy country we live in today. I would go so far as to say it is fundamentally different.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:07 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:16 pm to UGATiger26
Hmmmm if they made a remake of home alone, Kevin would be remanded to a foster home in the first 30 minutes, the wet bandits would ransack the house, and the mcCalisters would be thrown in jail for child endangerment.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:17 pm to TJG210
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Hmmmm if they made a remake of home alone, Kevin would be remanded to a foster home in the first 30 minutes, the wet bandits would ransack the house, and the mcCalisters would be thrown in jail for child endangerment.
Excellent point. One of my favorite movies growing up.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:20 pm to TJG210
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Hmmmm if they made a remake of home alone, Kevin would be remanded to a foster home in the first 30 minutes, the wet bandits would ransack the house, and the mcCalisters would be thrown in jail for child endangerment.
In the remake, the kid gets taken to county and sodomized, the parents get arrested, all before they clear he awful TSA line at ORD.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:59 pm to Scruffy
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I sat in the back and read a book with the doors locked.
You locked the doors? I never knew scruffy was so soft.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:03 pm to TJG210
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Hmmmm if they made a remake of home alone, Kevin would be remanded to a foster home in the first 30 minutes, the wet bandits would ransack the house, and the mcCalisters would be thrown in jail for child endangerment.
Which really should have happened in a responsible world, but that wouldn't make a good movie. The McCallisters are the worst family in America.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:06 pm to OMLandshark
Yep. Kevin is going to for lot of hard drugs as he gets older...
Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:28 am to papasmurf1269
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Damn,really Tuba?Good for you.
My mother used to leave me in the car ALL THE TIME. I demanded it! I fricking HATED going in the store with her!
If the car got too hot - I got out!
I think obviously if you leave an infant unattended in a car - that's BAD.
Where do we draw the line? How about when the kid is old enough to unbuckle his seatbelt and get out of the car? I don't think that's unreasonable at all.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 5:30 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 7:36 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Same. I hated going shopping with her, especially if my sisters were with us.
My mother used to leave me in the car ALL THE TIME. I demanded it! I fricking HATED going in the store with her!
That has pretty much created a deep seated hatred for clothes shopping that I've carried all my life.
quote:Agreed. They literally can't do anything to help themselves. A law pertaining to that actually makes sense.
I think obviously if you leave an infant unattended in a car - that's BAD.
quote:The thing is, Tuba, this is due to a general mindset that is now prevalent in our society.
Where do we draw the line? How about when the kid is old enough to unbuckle his seatbelt and get out of the car? I don't think that's unreasonable at all.
If I were to ask you, at what age do we no longer consider someone a "child," what would you say?
18? 20? 25?
I'd argue that due to the way society has begun coddling kids and young adults, mid-twenties is basically the new teenager.
Is that because of the way we are treated (parents' still cover our insurance, college's degree mill status, young adults living at home more than ever, etc.) or is it because we are living longer?
Society is incentivizing not growing up and I think that plays into the idea that my generation and the current generations are selfish, narcissistic, and cynical.
That was a bit if a rant, but I believe it is all connected.
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