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re: Model: 2025 tariffs would result in -$3,800 per household, GDP shrinks by 0.8% over decade
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:17 pm to Ingeniero
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:17 pm to Ingeniero
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Model: 2025 tariffs would result in -$3,800 per household, GDP shrinks by 0.8% over decade
Did the model include when trading partners drop their tariffs to zero and we respond with zero (i.e., reciprocity)?
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:17 pm to RollTide4547
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To not be a lib, you sure act like a pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all smug lib. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and acts like a duck I call it a duck.
I'm the one consistently arguing for policies and plans to reduce government, especially in the markets. Why do you associate this with being a "lib"?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:17 pm to RollTide4547
quote:. Massive corps, highly automated.
Really now. I'm seeing 3 Trillion plus in foreign investment coming into the country
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:18 pm to Ingeniero
They seem to have forgotten the flood of investments coming in to take advantage of no tariffs on domestically produced goods.
Viet Nam dropped their tariffs completely on American products. Evidently, they are angling for some of those factories fleeing China.
Viet Nam dropped their tariffs completely on American products. Evidently, they are angling for some of those factories fleeing China.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:20 pm to Powerman
quote:Barry didn't say "those manufacturing jobs aren't coming back"? If manufacturing are overseas and the company opens up factories here to employ American workers. Seems to me that is jobs coming back and a good thing. Would the 3Trillion investment be happening without the tariffs? I'd say no, or they would have happened under biden.
People on the right butcher the context of this quote as bad
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You are the one consistently being pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all and smug. that's why.
Why do you associate this with being a "lib"?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:21 pm to Tigerdew
Thank you Tigerdew!
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:25 pm to Jbird
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Perhaps. But cheaper is good right? Competition allows our products a fight chance.
Depends on if companies are going to actually lower their prices, or if they will keep them the same and just profit more.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:27 pm to RollTide4547
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You are the one consistently being pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all and smug. that's why.
Yeah but I did that for 15 years without anyone questioning my economic positions, or if those positions were "lib" or not.
It's only since 2016 that this view has been flipped by posters like you.
What happened in 2016 to make y'all 180?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:28 pm to GumboPot
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Did the model include when trading partners drop their tariffs to zero and we respond with zero (i.e., reciprocity)?
It doesn't appear that this policy is about reciprocal tariffs, given that the calculations were done based on trade deficit.
The Swiss government has already come out with a "the frick are you talking about" statement because they haven't had tariffs in over a year: LINK
Switzerland received a 31% tariff because of a trade deficit
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I've hated pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all and smug liberals my whole life.
make y'all 180?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:29 pm to Ingeniero
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The Swiss government has already come out with a "the frick are you talking about" statement because they haven't had tariffs in over a year: LINK
Switzerland received a 31% tariff because of a trade deficit
quote:
Switzerland abolished all industrial tariffs as of 1 January 2024. This means that 99 per cent of all goods from the USA can be imported into Switzerland duty-free. Switzerland does not provide market-distorting industrial subsidies. The goods trade surplus is mainly attributable to exports from the chemical and pharmaceutical industry and the gold trade. The USA is the largest recipient of Swiss direct investment.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:29 pm to RollTide4547
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I've hated pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all and smug liberals my whole life.
What about pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all and smug economic conservatives/libertarians?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's probably your love for John Kerry.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Perhaps. Someone takes care of those automation machines right? They're not self-healing, self-maintaining and self-repairing. Sounds like people will need to be hired to maintain those automation machines. If those factories weren't here, those jobs wouldn't exist.
Massive corps, highly automated.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:33 pm to RollTide4547
quote:. Sure. A few jobs, until tariffs and subsides run.out and they go back offshore.
Someone takes care of those automation machines right?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:33 pm to Ingeniero
open the model and the data set to all.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:33 pm to Ingeniero
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reduce US GDP by 0.8 percent.
What growth is factored in in that 10 year span?
How the hell do they come up with this number?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Those don't exist. They may claim to be conservatives, but if they act like that they are liberals. Kinda like straight guys that sleep with other guys do not exist. If they engage in the activity of sleeping with other guys, they are not straight. No matter how much they argue that they are.
pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, know-it-all and smug economic conservatives/libertarians
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:34 pm to Ingeniero
The sky. It’s falling.
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