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re: Mike Pence showed some courage tonight, speaking about 1/6
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:59 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:59 am to boosiebadazz
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I expect begrudging acceptance and a tip of the cap here when Kamala refuses to certify in 2024.
And if she did, she would be removed and the process would continue.
Why is this an issue?
Pence had a chance to make a statement with his actions. Instead, he either was a coward, or was complicit in undermining the nation’s faith in our election integrity. I don’t see any other options.
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:00 am to half cajun
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I note you offer nothing to counter what I said. God you are one of the worst most doormat posters on this board. God grow up.
You started off by claiming that no “normal conservative” (whatever that means) voted for Trump and that is demonstrably false as Trump received more votes than any Republican and indeed more votes than any sitting President in history. Beyond that, you have offered little more to counter than ad hominem attacks.
If you wish to have a substantive debate, fine; if you wish to simply trade petty insults, I’m game for that too. Look, I’m here to make friends and if not friends, at least frenemies; in any event, you get what you give with me.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:02 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Atleast Mike and his rhino friends can feel better about still controlling the elections.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:22 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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"The truth is there is almost no idea more unamerican than the idea that one person could choose the president,"
Stealing an election through widespread fraud would be one of those ideas.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:25 am to Jjdoc
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T]here is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated’ “
Yes, the legislature, not individual legislators. If it were a formal act of the Arizona legislature then you’d have a stronger leg to stand on. The constitution vests the power in the legislative body itself, not individual legislators writing letters contradicting official acts of the body itself.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:26 am to boosiebadazz
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The Georgia legislature as a political body certified the slate of electors. Individual members wrote to Pence after the fact. They don’t have any authority as individual members.
This ignores the reality that evidence of widespread voter fraud emerged after Georgia’s certification of the election on November 20. After these revelations, courts repeatedly refused to look into this very credible evidence.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:31 am to boosiebadazz
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Just interested to learn you believe the power to allow the President to take office bottlenecks at the Vice President of the administration before him/her.
No you aren't .
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:31 am to Jjdoc
He is now the Jeff Sessions of Indiana. When it came to nut-cutting time, just like the vast majority of GOPers, Pence showed his true colors.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:34 am to Toomer Deplorable
Then the legislature should have called an emergency session and recalled their slate of electors.
Or the Georgia Senator and a member of the House should have objected and utilized that due process mechanism built into the EC proceedings.
I find it hard to comprehend why you guys are arguing for more power and control to be consolidated into one person.
Or the Georgia Senator and a member of the House should have objected and utilized that due process mechanism built into the EC proceedings.
I find it hard to comprehend why you guys are arguing for more power and control to be consolidated into one person.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 8:37 am
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Pence can walk on water but will never regain the trust of Trump Nation. He folded when the chips were on the table. At the least, he should have went on record - like Trump - asserting the massive fraud in the election.
Coward. Liar. Enabler. He's done as a leader for Constitutional Americans.
Coward. Liar. Enabler. He's done as a leader for Constitutional Americans.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:52 am to RCDfan1950
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Pence can walk on water but will never regain the trust of Trump Nation. He folded when the chips were on the table. At the least, he should have went on record - like Trump - asserting the massive fraud in the election.
Coward. Liar. Enabler. He's done as a leader for Constitutional Americans.
Aka kicked out of the cult for disobeying the leader
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:52 am to the808bass
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I’m not going to take you that seriously.
There are 3 classes of “conservatives” left after the brazen and unprecedented stolen election of 2020:
1.) A small minority of deluded tools who actually believe that Biden legitimately received 80 gazillion votes.
2.) A majority — who though they may not have been fans of Trump — realize that the mail-in ballot measures ostensibly put in place because of COVID-1984 in a handful of battleground states was little more than an exercise in blatant ballot-stuffing by the notoriously corrupt Democratic Political Machines in large urban centers.
3.). A significant minority who knows that the election was stolen and do not give a flying rip because they so hate Trump.
The greatest enmity and scorn should be levied at this final group.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:53 am to Toomer Deplorable
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A significant minority who knows that the election was stolen and do not give a flying rip because they so hate Trump.
These are typically people who don’t think there is a cultural war at play.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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if we lose faith in elections, we lose our country," Pence says
Well here we are. Most I know have lost faith in our elections and the people who run them.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:06 am to boosiebadazz
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Then the legislature should have called an emergency session and recalled their slate of electors.
This is correct.
Pence’s failure wasn’t in his actions on 1/6. It was his complete disappearance from the discussion from the day after the election until 1/6.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:08 am to the808bass
quote:...and afterwards.
It was his complete disappearance from the discussion from the day after the election until 1/6.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Mike Pence showed some courage tonight,
I'd say just the opposite.
He's taken the easy out at every turn.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:13 am to boosiebadazz
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I find it hard to comprehend why you guys are arguing for more power and control to be consolidated into one person.
You inner Democrat is showing in this bullshite deflection. Pence had a choice as I laid it out above. Your oppositional defiance aside, you bring up valid points concerning the respective state legislatures. My only counter would be “and if the Governor(s) of those respective states refused to allow for an emergency session?”
Like Pence, based on your take, those respective legislatures should have nutted up...but didn’t. Their inaction, however, does not change my take. I am of the opinion that an illegitimate election was certified and a usurper was installed. Pence had a chance to highlight the concerns of the nation (over 50% of respondents to polls conducted by left-leaning entities question its legitimacy). He didn’t stand up for”We the people”. As such, he is either a coward, or complicit in undermining the nations faith in election integrity. Period.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:13 am to boosiebadazz
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Aka kicked out of the cult for disobeying the leader
For the umpteenth time, bossie, it is NOT about Trump; it's his American First/National Sovereignty policy. Can you name another American who purports to serve Constitutional Principle, that has taken on what has proven to be a 'whatever it takes' Democratic Authoritarian Left? From "wiretapping", to the Muh Russia/Meuller fraud, Impeachment and finally the 'Steal'...the violent Left burns, pillages and openly attacks this Nation's Founding as being immoral via CRT...and just WHO is at the fore in countering such blatant INSURRECTION?
Answer: TRUMP. Not a DC politico...not compromised by years of collusion and deals (Biden and McConnel at the fore) with out adversaries.
No personality cult. American Patriots will drop Trump like they did Pence, in a heartbeat...if or when he were to fold. This is going to the mat. The Commies are all in; they have believed in the moral superiority since the inception of their Egalitarian Ideology. IRL, it sucks.
"Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof is destruction". All things, and all people, are not equal. Nor should they be. That would be the greatest injustice in this Universe. And coerced manipulation will be a reckless and costly folly; herding cats...cats who know they are morally right.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
He is a spineless cuck.
Just like you.
Just like you.
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