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re: Mike Pence showed some courage tonight, speaking about 1/6
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:27 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:27 pm to boosiebadazz
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A minority of state reps wrote to him.
WRONG!
January 2, 2021
The White HouseOffice of the Vice President1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Vice President Pence:
The undersigned Georgia legislators request that you delay and stay the count of votes of the Electoral College for twelve (12) days to allow for further investigation of fraud,irregularities, and misconduct in the November 2020 General Election.
To the extent that this letter includes the signatures of a majority of Members of the Georgia State Senate and House,this letter represents the will of the Georgia Legislature. Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 gives usthe power to certify and stay certification of our votes.
We are aware that hearings in the Senate and in the House have already uncovered extensive irregularities and fraud. For example, these preliminary investigations have revealed a significant amount of irregularity in the absentee ballot count in Fulton County. In fact, a security video taken duringthe counting of absentee ballots shows election officials at around 10:00 P.M. telling electionmonitors and the media that counting would be discontinued. After all observers and media leftthe facility, cases of ballots were pulled from under a table covered with a cloth, and countingresumed for approximately two and a half hours. The votes counted during this time periodwould have been sufficient to change the results of the election in Georgia. You should alsoknow that even the counting of ballots without public observers being present was illegal under Georgia law. The fact that this occurred has shaken public confidence in the election in our state.We have identified a team of experts who are able to examine the ballots and the votingand counting equipment to determine whether or not the integrity of the vote was violated. Wehave made requests to Fulton County for inspection of the ballots. As of the date of this letter,Fulton County has refused to permit the inspection. A court hearing will be held on Monday,January 4, 2021, where an order will be sought to compel an inspection of the ballots andequipment.Thorough investigations are necessary in order to arrive at the truth and to restoreconfidence in our elections. Thank you for your consideration of our request.Sincerely,William T. Ligon, ChairmanElection Law Study Subcommittee of the StandingSenate Judiciary Committee
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:29 pm to boosiebadazz
ok but what would kamala’s reason be to try to exercise this power?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:29 pm to boosiebadazz
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I’m saying certification of elections is a state-level legislative function per the constitution and the VP is simply the tally-counter of the EC.
I'm saying you are wrong.
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Due process and presentation of evidence is at the state legislative level.
And they did that. and the majority asked him to send it back to them.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:30 pm to Jjdoc
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To the extent that this letter includes the signatures of a majority of Members of the Georgia State Senate and House,this letter represents the will of the Georgia Legislature.
Except it doesn’t in that the Georgia Legislature voted to certify the electors and never formally rescinded or recalled that slate.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:30 pm to VoxDawg
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Imagine the rectally-bleeding levels of cuckoldry necessary not just to put all of those words together, but to #SoBrave it.
Imagine being a “conservative” and praising such an @ss-raping as a courageous act? It must suck to be that guy.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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on that tragic day to reconvene the Congress and fulfill our duty"
Odd...thought all that pomp and circumstance was ceremonial and he is just doing a show for posterity.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Pence was pretty worthless as Vice President. He is just another career politician that doesn't want his golden goose slaughtered.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:30 pm to supatigah
Whatever she decides at that time.
What’s the check to that power?
Could she refuse certification indefinitely?
What’s the check to that power?
Could she refuse certification indefinitely?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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if we lose faith in elections, we lose our country," Pence says
So...why did he certify bogus numbers?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:33 pm to Jjdoc
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I'm saying you are wrong.
Then show me why.
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And they did that. and the majority asked him to send it back to them.
The Georgia legislature as a political body certified the slate of electors. Individual members wrote to Pence after the fact. They don’t have any authority as individual members.
I agree you’d have a stronger and more compelling argument if the Georgia legislature reconvened and rescinded the slate of electors as a collective body and the body charged by the Constitution with the power to do so.
But that’s not what happened.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:34 pm to boosiebadazz
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You may not like it, but I expect wholesale acknowledgment that she actually has that power and is not usurping anything at all.
Glad you’re intellectually honest enough to commit to that beforehand
I love watching boozie trip over his own idiocy thinking he made a point
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:36 pm to Turbeauxdog
Just interested to learn you believe the power to allow the President to take office bottlenecks at the Vice President of the administration before him/her.
Seems healthy. Can’t imagine anything going wrong there.
Seems healthy. Can’t imagine anything going wrong there.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:37 pm to boosiebadazz
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Whatever she decides at that time.
What’s the check to that power?
Could she refuse certification indefinitely?
No she couldn't. Just like Pence could not unilaterally do anything.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:38 pm to boosiebadazz
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Whatever she decides at that time.
What’s the check to that power?
Could she refuse certification indefinitely?
this is the false equivalency mentioned earlier
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:38 pm to boosiebadazz
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So a group of state legislators from NY or California simply has to write to Kamala asking to delay certification and she’s good to go? Even if the legislative body as a whole from NY or CA has already certified the election?
If the governors of those states circumvented and otherwise ignored state law and otherwise colluded with state election officials to make changes to election laws that were not approved by the Legislature? Yes.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:39 pm to Bass Tiger
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But you know there’s more at stake than our party and our political fortunes in this moment. ….if we lose faith in elections, we lose our country," Pence says Congrats Me Pence, we really have confidence in our elections now, you saved our republic….lol!
Boom!
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:42 pm to supatigah
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this is the false equivalency mentioned earlier
No, it’s not. It’s either a ministerial function or it’s a discretionary function. If it’s discretionary, then it’s wide open, full power resides in the VP. You say Pence should have enacted it due to the frickery; Kamala in 2024 says she’s justified in enacting it because _____.
The alternative is it’s a ministerial function and the discretionary function on whether to certify belongs the the state legislative bodies. That’s more in line with the text of the constitution.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:44 pm to CamdenTiger
Yes. Even normal conservatives can’t fathom anyone voting for the disaster that was Trump. Checks out.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:48 pm to Jjdoc
Pence sounds like a huge puss. Dude has no shot in 24
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