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re: Michigan Fraud Proof released in the middle of the night (Lindell) (video now deleted)

Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:29 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42514 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:29 am to
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Guy shows how tabulator counts and central software that accumulates counts can easily be manipulated, and it's dismissed off hand.


you found this video compelling??

really??

This kind of 3rd grade crap is what the media relies on to do their 'look at how stupid they are" reports. Someone who only watches that stuff may "hear" someone talk about machine manipulation and turn on CNN who will show them how stupid any such talk is.

This crap hurts the spread of real analytical proof to those who are not inclined to 'want' to believe it in the first place.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:40 am to
I think you’re wrong.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78905 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:42 am to
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This crap hurts the spread of real analytical proof to those who are not inclined to 'want' to believe it in the first place.


What would satisfy your thirst for proof exactly? You seem to be shitting on a guy who has shown you what is possible, not necessarily what actually happened.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56252 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:43 am to
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Courts won't allow cases to move forward with subpoenas. You want people to use violence to collect evidence?

Not sure what you're suggesting.
I'm not "suggesting." I'm flatly stating that this isn't proof of anything. It's not an opinion. I'm not wrong. This will effect nothing. It's just more dicktease bullshite from the right wing wannabe superstars.

And as an aside, it would be super if someone would explain to me why I should trust the political acumen of a pillow salesman. Because he runs ads on Fox News?
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:44 am to
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Why in th dark of night?

Because that’s the best time for anything election results related.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:46 am to
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I'm flatly stating that this isn't proof of anything. It's not an opinion. I'm not wrong.


This is about the 10th time that we’ve been shown that Dominion voting systems can be manipulated in ways Dominion told us were impossible.

It is not proof that election fraud happened. It is absolutely proof of something.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105376 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:46 am to
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That’s not proof. That’s some guy running a simulation and manipulating his own data...


Is this a climate change thread?


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67002 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:49 am to
It's not proof that fraud occurred, but it showed a weak link in the chain of custody where fraud could have occurred. That is very important. Before you can prove causality or probability, one must first prove possibility. This video demonstration establishes the possibility that someone could exploit a point in the paper ballot counting process where votes can be changed.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4741 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:52 am to
Update with video censored in OP
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:53 am to
how many votes did biden win michigan by.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:00 am to
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What would satisfy your thirst for proof exactly? You seem to be shitting on a guy who has shown you what is possible, not necessarily what actually happened.


In my case a investigation of the election data done by by one of the legitimate firms that specialize in forensic data analysis. One that has been employed by companies like Wells Fargo, Chase Bank, and has actually investigated election fraud for foreign governments. So far all we have seen from Lindell and others is a bunch of stuff thrown together on a kitchen table by people with no real credentials.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67002 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:01 am to
Do credentials matter when showing that a piece of equipment has an obvious and exploitable flaw? If anything, it shows that it could be exploited by amateurs, which is even more concerning.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67652 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:12 am to
I came here to upvote.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56252 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:18 am to
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shown that Dominion voting systems can be manipulated
quote:

showed a weak link in the chain of custody where fraud could have occurred.
Bring this into court and you will lose, bigly.

Not only isn't it proof, it's not even working toward getting proof. It's just the pillow guy repeatedly saying that and how it COULD have happened. He keeps doing this. Seems kind of grifter-y to me.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78905 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:20 am to
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In my case a investigation of the election data done by by one of the legitimate firms that specialize in forensic data analysis. One that has been employed by companies like Wells Fargo, Chase Bank, and has actually investigated election fraud for foreign governments. So far all we have seen from Lindell and others is a bunch of stuff thrown together on a kitchen table by people with no real credentials.


Just curious, but do you believe any fraud happened in this past election?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:21 am to
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it's not even working toward getting proof.


You’re an idiot.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56361 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:23 am to
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you found this video compelling??

really??

This kind of 3rd grade crap is what the media relies on to do their 'look at how stupid they are" reports. Someone who only watches that stuff may "hear" someone talk about machine manipulation and turn on CNN who will show them how stupid any such talk is.

This crap hurts the spread of real analytical proof to those who are not inclined to 'want' to believe it in the first place.



Sorry, guy. It's not going to come all at once and packaged in a neat little package. He's showing you how the system can be manipulated at the reporting level (tally slip), management level (database manipulation). It leads to a conclusion that there will either be a difference in totals with the physical ballots...or evidence of fraudulent physical ballots (See Arizona forensic audit).

It's a tedious process. These people are doing the necessary work. On its own, it's not everything. Quit expecting that.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8138 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:26 am to
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Nope. They never do. They just post their snarky one liners then bounce They’re a bunch of pussies. All of them. Every single one of them. They’re enemies to our country


Bump

If you liberal sissies have an issue with what I said, tell me what I said that’s wrong. LITERALLY (I know y’all soy boys love that word) COME AT ME BRO
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
174 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:27 am to
The next step should be an unlimited supply of crack cocaine to any election worker in Detroit or Atlanta to explain what was going with the thumb drives handed off under the table or the boxes of votes pulled out after everyone was sent home for the night.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:31 am to
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Trump lost. By a lot.




Then why are you peeing on yourself at the thought of someone actually physically counting these results?
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