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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:59 am to novabill
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Do you agree that the relevant facts to the lethal shooting has to do with whether or not the officer had reason to feel he was in danger.
What about him being a danger to the public?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:59 am to teke184
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I put quotes around that because, if he was indeed the second robber with Brown, the reason he's lying and changing his story so much is to save his own arse.
The funny thing is recall the media making a big deal out of the police not questioning him yet. My guess he was hiding and I bet he lawyered up and got immunity for the robbery prior to speaking with the police.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:59 am to graves1
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So you are saying you don't want to understand. You agree and then you don't agree all in the same sentence.
Not sure what you are referring to.
When I comment on what someone says, I usually quote their comment in my post.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:59 am to Five0
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TN v Garner puts the danger to society as the metric not the danger to an officer. Robbery is a crime against a person. People that engage in it are a danger to society.
bingo
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:00 pm to Five0
To everyone: let's just wait to see what all comes out. Hell just the info released in last 24 hrs has made many look like fools. But the full picture still has not be painted. So open your minds and just go with all the facts that we KNOW to be true. And one is a tragic event occurred that will effect the families of two young men. Both reportedly good men. Let's find out what happen, and afterwards try and let this community heel. Peace!
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:01 pm to kilo
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It DOES change things man. A felony robbery suspect who tried to disarm a police officer was shot fleeing because the officer thought he was a further danger to the public if he was willing to go as afar as to disarm a police officer to get away.
I concede, that if that is the law, and that is what happened, then it is relevant.
Otherwise it is not relevant.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:03 pm to real
I guess the only thing that would matter is if Brown had his arms up giving himself up to the police prior to the shots that killed him. If he was running away the cop was still legally justified.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:04 pm to novabill
quote:Indeed
I concede, that if that is the law, and that is what happened, then it is relevant.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:08 pm to C
Totally would change the scenario. If I engage a robbery suspect they get proned out and cuffed (detained), then patted down for weapons, then sat down and investigated.
Steps 1 and 2 are for my safety and theirs. If I develope pc the cuffs stay on. Nothing above reasonable suspicion, then they come off. Simple really.
Steps 1 and 2 are for my safety and theirs. If I develope pc the cuffs stay on. Nothing above reasonable suspicion, then they come off. Simple really.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:08 pm to NC_Tigah
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Where is the tape of the call?
So because they havent released it it never happened? Jesus what is with people and logical fallacies.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:14 pm to kilo
quote:Wait! You are claiming if a police call identifying Brown as a robbery suspect actually existed, it would not have been released?
So because they havent released it it never happened?
Really?
Seriously?
And you have the unmitigated gall to raise specter of "logical fallacies?"
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:15 pm to C
quote:Doubtful.
If he was running away the cop was still legally justified.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:17 pm to The Spleen
It takes time to get surveillance footage especially when the entire area is getting overrun with violent looters.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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Wait! You are claiming if a police call identifying Brown as a robbery suspect actually existed, it would not have been released?
Really?
Seriously?
And you have the unmitigated gall to raise specter of "logical fallacies?"
It was a logical fallacy. The appeal to ignorance to be exact.
You can throw up all the protest you want but the fact remains that you made 4 distinct statements as fact in the original post that I responded to and when called to provide anything at all as a citation you have come up with nothing.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:21 pm to NC_Tigah
Once again, the lunatic left is starting to look like the gullible fools that they are.
Will it be reported that way? Of course not.
Will it be reported that way? Of course not.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:33 pm to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
Released by the Ferguson Police today:
Police Report of Robbery, 911 call of robbery etc.
You can apologize whenever.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:42 pm to LSU2NO
quote:With all of the resources they had available this should have been cleared up by the next day. Yet even in the press conference today, 6 days later, the chief didn't even say that Brown was involved in the robbery. He just handed out the press packets and referred to "a robbery".
The way everything unfolded, I would have held back on the tape even longer, unless they have more evidence than just a tape (which they have not shared). I don't know and nobody but the three of them know exactly what happened and why. I will not speculate.
Even for the family of the suspect or the families of every police office in town LE should have gotten to the bottom of things as quickly as possible. Lord knows that town is going to get an OT bill as if every officer was working around the clock.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:44 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:They didn't even go to the store to ask for the security footage until the next day. Then because they didn't have the right equipment to look at it (I dunno, use the store's equipment?) they sat on it for some time. No rush I guess.
It takes time to get surveillance footage especially when the entire area is getting overrun with violent looters.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:45 pm to kilo
Can we get a YouTube video of those idiots on CNN? I need a good laugh.
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