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Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:00 am to Kjnstkmn
Just put as many as you can fit in a glider and let that sucker loose right in front of the cartel. Profit???
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:01 am to Kjnstkmn
Ok. We will use catapults instead.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:02 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't know, maybe your last post? 
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:10 am to gumbo2176
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However, the U.S. military will push their shite in with ease, and it wouldn't be pretty.
Just like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan!
Y'all underestimate the level of sophistication the cartels can bring to bear and y'all overestimate our willingness to go scorched Earth.
Yes, military on military in an all out war, we have no peers. This would be a low-intensity conflict and a full-blown insurgency if we established a footprint.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:10 am to TidenUP
The A-10 home base is right here in Tucson. Nice and easy to send them. This is a war I can get behind!
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:13 am to Longhorn Actual
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Y'all underestimate the level of sophistication the cartels can bring to bear and y'all overestimate our willingness to go scorched Earth.
Yes, military on military in an all out war, we have no peers. This would be a low-intensity conflict and a full-blown insurgency if we established a footprint.
I've tried to explain this to them about 10 times by now.
Yes, we can kill the people who are currently leading the cartels, just as we could kill a lot of terrorists and disrupt their cells.
Will that prevent new groups forming new cartels in perpetuity? No. Just as new terror cells developed to replace the ones we killed.
It will be more like Afghanistan, with a lot of different enemy groups over a lot of (sometimes rough) terrain, with locals supporting the cartels in their specified areas.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:15 am to Kjnstkmn
Sounds like fake news.
The Cartels arent doing anything that dumb. They run a business
The Cartels arent doing anything that dumb. They run a business
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:17 am to Gifman
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The cartels are smarter than this.
Indeed
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:19 am to gumbo2176
I don't know about Sinaloa, but there is one cartel that is made up of former Mexican Special Forces that the US trained (Los Zetas?) They are pretty lethal and have good intel capabilities. They are much better equipped than a bunch of Hadjis in mud huts. They present different problems than the Taliban or ISIS.
Our enormous appetite for cocaine and other drugs funds them and keeps them well equipped....along with Europe's appetite .
Our enormous appetite for cocaine and other drugs funds them and keeps them well equipped....along with Europe's appetite .
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:22 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:37 am to Kjnstkmn
So this gives us a reason to invade Mexico
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:38 am to ItTakesAThief
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So this gives us a reason to invade Mexico
It's the proverbial Gulf of Tonkin/Lusitania scenario
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:39 am to KiwiHead
quote:CJNG is led by former Marinas; Los Zetas was very similar. Los Zetas were almost a cartel for hire and then tried to form a cartel on their own. They are back to being fragmented and for hire again. There is even a Los Talibanes splinter group that allied itself with the Taliban after Biden's pull out.
I don't know about Sinaloa, but there is one cartel that is made up of former Mexican Special Forces that the US trained (Los Zetas?) They are pretty lethal and have good intel capabilities. They are much better equipped than a bunch of Hadjis in mud huts. They present different problems than the Taliban or ISIS.
Our enormous appetite for cocaine and other drugs funds them and keeps them well equipped....along with Europe's appetite .
CJNG has, on the other hand, grown.
On the primary subject here... there's no way a cartel is serious about shooting down US flights even though I have no doubt they have some capability. A cartel not benefitting from the repatriations may say such but it is more about harming rival cartels than not.
A) the cartels love deportations AND open borders (Obama, Biden, Catholic Charities). They get $15k just to turn them around and send them again. They are repeat customers.
B) In the meantime their daughters and wives have to be sex slaves for even longer to work off papa's debt.
C) If the border is closed they just leverage them for foot soldiers. These are the worst of the worst in these first flights.
D) If the border closes prices go up AND in-fighting between the cartels increase. The cartels with border towns AND non-open air crossings (e.g. tunnels) now have excessive leverage over the other cartels so the cartel war begins. All sides will need foot soldiers.
The cartels know the border will be becoming more secure. They are celebrating these returns.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:39 am to ItTakesAThief
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So this gives us a reason to invade Mexico
Why would we want another war? I thought "we" wanted less foreign involvement.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:40 am to POTUS2024
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look at the capabilities of Stinger missiles
Range of 12,500 feet. Like I said would need to be somewhat close to an airport. I guess doable.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:40 am to Kjnstkmn
Sadly, they can probably do it just sitting at the end of the runway of airports/air bases all over the United States.
Thanks, Obama
Thanks, Joetatoe
Thanks, Obama
Thanks, Joetatoe
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:41 am to KiwiHead
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ur enormous appetite for cocaine and other drugs funds them and keeps them well equipped....along with Europe's appetite .
Indeed.
Cartels are a result of inefficiencies produced by overregulation. The only way to end it is to dry up demand, which I dont think this country has the fortitude to do.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:42 am to Kjnstkmn
This thread is now 4-pages deep, but I am wondering how the Cartels got their hands on SAMs from Russia and Ukraine. And why would they think they need them?
These guys seem to operate with impunity and there is no real effort, let alone threat from the Mexican government. Why would they need SAMs?
These guys seem to operate with impunity and there is no real effort, let alone threat from the Mexican government. Why would they need SAMs?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:42 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:You sure our military has it together like that?
The cartels’ entire existence is predicated on not making enough noise that the US decides to intervene directly into Mexico. We know where all the important players are at all times and could completely eviscerate the leadership with minimal effort.
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