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re: #Metoo-ism is going to get out of control and needs to be shut down

Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:29 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:29 am to
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#Metoo-ism is going to get out of control and needs to be shut down
or you reap what you sow.


Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:30 am to
I really don't see a problem with that picture
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:31 am to
Well as for the liberals in dc and Hollywood, doesn’t matter to me if it’s true or not. They espouse this “always believe the accuser over the accused” social practice so they pretty much agree with their accuser

If they don’t after being falsely accused, they’ve been red pilled. They think “oh man, was I fricking wrong. This is insanity”

Exhibit a: Jeremy Piven
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:37 am to
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And the political party pushing this crap should choke on it as well.. MAGA



The Dems still haven't realized that it's backfiring on them. Much like many different media outlets, the Dems have relied far too heavily on gauging the political winds via social media, specifically twitter. What they fail to realize is that only about 15% of the population is on twitter and twitter's platform is essentially geared towards this "look at me" behavior. While they think they're getting accurate info upon which they design their strategies, they're really only getting feedback from a very small and very loud minority.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261484 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:38 am to
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so because these victims were children at the time and scared shitless you're holding that against them now?


I can understand coming forward when you're 21 claiming to have been groped when you were 15, but when you're 60, I have my doubts.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78315 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:40 am to
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I really don't see a problem with that picture

what about the alabama teabagger at the bar in new orleans?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78315 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:41 am to
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but when you're 60, I have my doubts.


what if you feel like you were the only one and no one would believe you and you might ruin your reputation and ability to hold a job?

what if when a couple others came forward it gave you the courage to tell your story?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5346 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:41 am to
Following the #metoo in Twitter showed me it's not just about coming forward. Make no mistake some of the pushers will be looking to hold anything over any guy's head. Rose McGowan had a tweet complaining by saying "most women don't want a man's semen." She's not what I would classify as level headed.

I like seeing the victims come forward but I'm also suspicious at same time. This is something the man haters will use to accuse and batter men for any purpose to the point of even blackmail.

If anyone isn't cautious about it, do look at what happened to the duke Lacross team, Brian Banks, mattress chick and numerous others. It's a tough time and hopefully the wrongdoers are outed and punished without innocent people getting burned.

Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:41 am to
I agree it is out of hand and has been for a while.

HOWEVER, all this witch hunting and escalating standards of SJW morality that has been going on originated from the left and has been leveraged by the left as a tool that solely applies to the right.

And it was all fine and dandy when the people getting fired, shamed on social media, and their life ruined were Republicans. But now that it is impacting democratic senators and condescending Hollywood leftists, it is suddenly “whoa man not cool”. Well, frick that. SJW need to die by their own sword. That’s the only way they will learn ruining a person’s life over the tinniest infraction is wrong.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 11:44 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83628 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:42 am to
It doesn’t need to be shut down, but people need to present actual evidence if they want attention IMO

It’s just too easy to make accusations or at least embellish events and when it comes to sexual assault, it’s “guilty until you prove yourself innocent”

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:42 am to
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what about the alabama teabagger at the bar in new orleans?
No not really. Don't pass out on burbon st if you don't want balls on your face.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261484 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:42 am to
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what about the alabama teabagger at the bar in new orleans?


Stupid frick did it in front of witnesses with cameras
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:43 am to
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what if you feel like you were the only one and no one would believe you and you might ruin your reputation and ability to hold a job? what if when a couple others came forward it gave you the courage to tell your story?
When you have to attach that many "what-ifs" to your argument then your argument is probably pretty weak.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83628 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:45 am to
That is fine

But you also shouldn’t fault people for being skeptic without any evidence
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:45 am to
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The Dems still haven't realized that it's backfiring on them.


they're doing this to bring white women onto the democrat plantation. trump won white women while running against a white female candidate...unacceptable. they thought they had like 70% or were on their way to that kind of voting block.

things started out well enough. they landed bill o'reilly. then the true believers went rogue and outed Weinstein which shifted the narrative in the wrong direction...liberal media/entertainment...and now politicians.

right now the score is like 80 something to 1. they got o'reilly. we'll see if they get moore. if they do, a sacrifice i'm willing to live with

there's always and equal and opposite reaction. I think America is on the precipice of rejecting identity politics. republicans and swing voters already have...but now the moderate dems and even the progressives are about to see what a huge fricking mistake PC culture and identity politics were as a political weapon now that the weapon is aimed at them.

Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11815 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:46 am to
I agree with the exception of a child that was legitimately raped. I can't even imagine the kind of horror that causes and I completely understand why that can be repressed and never outed.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:49 am to
Blame the MSM for giving these people a microphone.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23658 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:53 am to
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And if you remained silent, you're complicit

so when i was molested by an uncle when i was 11, but didn't say anything, mainly because of the shame and disgusting nature of it, until i was 33, to a therapist and then my family, i was complicit in the act?

i think if it were YOUR kid that something like this happened to, which i would hope would never happen to anyone you know, you'd probably feel a little differently....

speaking out about what happened to me was still very hard, even after all that time, and there are a multitude of reasons why i never spoke up before then... i have no physical evidence to prove that i was, so if that's the criteria to be met to be taken serious about the situation, does that mean that my family should't believe me about what happened?

this issue, at least to those of us balanced enough, isn't a political one... and this "yeah, but what about the other side" shite that both sides do, is getting very tiresome... if only y'all could channel 1/4 of the energy into preventing things like this from happening via a culture shift, as opposed to the amount of shite slinging that goes on, maybe we could have a society where this issue isn't something that can then be incorrectly portioned into a politically motivated shout speak forum
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 11:53 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261484 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:55 am to
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agree with the exception of a child that was legitimately raped


In a timely manner, yes. I'll still be skeptical of childhood memories 40 years later
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23658 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:58 am to
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In a timely manner

how do YOU decide what is a timely manner for the victim?

and who are YOU to set the time line for when the victim should say something?
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