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re: Memo to Mexico....."your" land was conquered, not stolen.

Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:26 pm to
At this point just declare an invasion.

Round them up, make Mexico pay ransom.

Pound Nuevo Laredo, Juarez, and TJ with MLRS and drones.

Lay landmines 20 miles deep in Mexican territory.

March the Democrats across it.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110957 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

are very fortunate the US didn't make Panama the southern border of the US on April 1, 1914 when the Panama Canal was completed.


Hard to imagine this wouldn’t have been a lot better for them.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5547 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:15 pm to
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Bought! The United States paid Mexico $15 million for California and other territories under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed in 1848


El Correcto Senor'.

$15 million in 1848 was about $500 million in todays US dólar.

Oh and lets not forget about the Gadsden Purchase a few years later, which the US purchased from Mexico, which was all of southern Arizona and part of southern New Mexico.

The Spanish had the land for about 300 years before Mexico even thought about it. The area was referred to as New Spain until 1821.

Anyone with a little knowledge of the US-Mexican war knows that future Civil War foes, Robert E Lee and U Grant, both fought in the US-Mexican War but only crossed paths once during that war.

A very little know fact is that Mexico wanted to sell the US more land but the Northern states did not want to purchase it because it would have made the south a larger population and more states.

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13148 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:46 am to
I'd be more interested in the coffee.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:48 am to
If these people want to be American because they want a better life.... If these people are filing asylum claims because the situation back home is potentially deadly...


Then why TF are we talking about Mexico reclaiming giant swaths of the United States?
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 7:48 am
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:50 am to
The only shitty part is that the US conquered them after they were depleted fighting off the Spanish 20 years before.

But yeah this “stolen land” bullshite is just that… bullshite.

It’s just that people hate to lose. The Mexicans would’ve taken everything they could if they had been powerful enough.

Same with the Native Americans. The Iroquois turned the Erie into an extinct tribe. White guys just came over and did everything they were already doing to each other, the white guys were just better at it.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23792 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:58 am to
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"Mexicans living in the United States are good men and women, honest people who went to the United States to seek a better life for themselves and to support their families. They are not criminals! They are good men and women!" Sheinbaum said in a speech, a news agency AFP report cited.


Sheinbaum didn't think before she spoke!
So, Mexicans leave their own country (which she is the leader) to come here seeking a better life and earn money to send back to their families...
She probably isn't the person to be giving advice on how America should conduct it's business.

Also, remittances provide almost 5% of Mexico’s GDP! If Trump would no longer allow money to be sent to Mexico from the US, it would cripple Mexico’s economy. That 3.5% tax in the BBB on remittances should be raised to 50%.

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59269 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:00 am to
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At this point just declare an invasion.


More and more I think the only way to really get a hold on this issue is to declare it an invasion with the intent to overthrow the government, thus those who actively support it would be considered committing treason.

Article III, Section 3

quote:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.


18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

quote:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

quote:

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.


18 U.S. Code § 2382 - Misprision of treason

quote:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.


Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2525 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:10 am to
This land was your land
Now it is my land
I took it from you
By the force of my hand
From the Redwood forest
To the Rocky Mountains
This land is now our history



Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29599 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:13 am to
Military Campaigns:
The war involved several major battles and campaigns, including battles in Texas, New Mexico, and California.


Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo:
The war concluded with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, which resulted in Mexico ceding a vast amount of territory to the United States, including present-day California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of other states.

We Kicked Their Asses back across the river
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:22 am to
Did Mexico steal this land from Spain? If so, did Texas steal its land from Mexico who stole it from Spain? Did Spain steal this land from the Aztecs, Mayans, Toltecs, and Olmecs? What about the Caddo, Comanche, Karankawa, Apache, Tonkawa, and Witchita in the modern-day American Southwest? How about West Coast tribes like the Chumash, Kumeyaay, Maidu, Miwok, Modoc, Mohave, Ohlone, Pomo, Serrano, Tongva, Yurok, and Yokuts?
And if the rightful owners are natives, at what moment throughout centuries of conquests prior to European colonization, do we assign rightful ownership? With no written history, how do we know who was actually inhabiting that land in that moment? How do we find their ancestors? What level of DNA qualifies one for ownership? How do we prove the legitimacy of these claims?

Are we starting to see how retarded this narrative is?
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23449 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:29 am to
Mexico sold the land to the US. Just like African kings sold their own people into slavery.. You don’t blame the buyer for buying a nice car for cheap.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:31 am to
I just want to take the north 25 miles all along the border, knock down every tree and building, and fill it with Hunter killer drones
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299684 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:33 am to
Be prepared to be called "colonizer" for the next few months.

Its the word of the summer for progressives.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23449 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:35 am to
I’ve been called worse, mostly by my wife
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21906 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:52 pm to
Actually it was purchased. $15 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo
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