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re: Megyn Kelly — Alien Enemies Act is not subject to judicial review.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Meanwhile you simp here 24/7 for free
And she knows this, but she's making that money.
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:48 am to loogaroo
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He said they met all three criteria.
Yes that is their argument. That doesn't necessarily make it so
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
So Trump declares war on Illegal Immigration and that covers that.
Hoping you are not naive enough to believe these Judges opposing and blocking him are doing it for lawfare sake.
Hoping you are not naive enough to believe these Judges opposing and blocking him are doing it for lawfare sake.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes that is their argument. That doesn't necessarily make it so
It’s not up for review. Debate over.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:51 am to riccoar
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So Trump declares war on Illegal Immigration and that covers that.
1. He has no authority to do that. Congress would have to pass that authorization prior, unless he wants to tie immigration into the AUMF, which I don't think anyone sincerely thinks would be valid (or good).
2. He went a different path
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:52 am to loogaroo
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It’s not up for review.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:53 am to loogaroo
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Miller covered all that. He said they met all three criteria.
He also said that they only had to meet one.
I heard it too. Then I read it in the Alien Enemies Act. Then we have the AUMF which provides congressional authority to the Executive to determine who is and who is not a terrorists, domestic or otherwise.
Judge Boesberg is in a pickle. And I really don't understand his motivation at this point concerning the TRO. TDA is already in an El Salvadorian prison. They are not coming back despite his daughter's need for clients paid by the U.S. tax payer.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:53 am to riccoar
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So Trump declares war on Illegal Immigration and that covers that.
Obama declared war. Unbeknownst to most, it hasn’t been revoked.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:54 am to GumboPot
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And I really don't understand his motivation at this point
Trump Derangement Syndrome
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:54 am to loogaroo
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So Trump declares war on Illegal Immigration and that covers that.
Obama declared war. Unbeknownst to most, it hasn’t been revoked.
The Executive needs congress to declare war. Trump has that in the AUMF.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:59 am to GumboPot
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The Executive needs congress to declare war. Trump has that in the AUMF.
Without too much detail…I thought it was declared by congress under Bush in 2001 then Obama declared it over but never really ended it.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:03 am to loogaroo
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I thought it was declared by congress under Bush in 2001 then Obama declared it over but never really ended it.
No, still active today.
I asked Grok about it and it said Obama utilized the AUMF 21 times.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:17 am to Vacherie Saint
Not Justiciable
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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1. He has no authority to do that. Congress would have to pass that authorization prior, unless he wants to tie immigration into the AUMF, which I don't think anyone sincerely thinks would be valid (or good).
2. He went a different path
He doesn't even have to declare war. He just has to declare that TdA was sent as a foreign invasion from Venezuela.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:44 am to Epic Cajun
Imagine being stupid enough to believe that the Commander in Chief needs any authorization whatsoever to repel a foreign invasion.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:50 am to JimEverett
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The Alien Enemy Act, construed as permitting resort to the courts only to challenge its validity and construction, and to raise questions of the existence of a "declared war" and of alien enemy status, does not violate the Bill of lights of the Federal Constitution.
If the Act is in effect, the removal cannot be challenged.
what can be challenged is whether the Act is in effect.
The act has never been used before outside a declaration of war.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:51 am to Epic Cajun
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He just has to declare that TdA was sent as a foreign invasion from Venezuela.
And analyzing that within the limitations of the statute is where the courts come in.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:53 am to jawnybnsc
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Imagine being stupid enough to believe that the Commander in Chief needs any authorization whatsoever to repel a foreign invasion.
Imagine thinking the CIC can just declare bankruptcy and has unlimited, uncheckable power domestically and abroad.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:59 am to jawnybnsc
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Imagine being stupid enough to believe that the Commander in Chief needs any authorization whatsoever to repel a foreign invasion.
He absolutely doesn’t.
This act isn’t what gives the president authority to fight off invaders.
If we are invaded or declare war on a nation/government, this act allows the president to pick up every male 14 years or older from a country and do whatever he deems necissary with them.
So it’s about noncombatants.
Because clearly he can have the military go fight an invading army.
But by law, this would allow him to deport legal venezuelan immigrants and permanent alien residents (who are male and over 14) who haven’t obtained citizen ship yet and deport them no questions asked.
that’s why it’s an extreme measure that he is using in a way no one has ever used it.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Is a Venezuelan gang member who has been convicted of murder, human trafficking or drug dealing eligible for immigration to the US? If he doesn’t apply for a visa and crosses illegally, is he subject to deportation or is he safe from deportation?
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